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On 1/30/12, Vamshi. G <[email protected]> wrote: > pilgrims > > On 1/30/12, Vamshi. G <[email protected]> wrote: >> Well, this seems to be a very interesting subject. once I finish my >> PhD, I may take up a research on this subject. My sample consists of >> born blind, late blind, deteriorating vision conditions, perfect >> vision before becoming blind, etc., etc. I would like to know the >> extent and variety of visualisations in dreams across these >> categories. Interested people can join me. But as I said, after 3 >> months. >> >> Vamshi >> mobile: 9949349497 >> -----Original message----- >>> On 1/25/12, Pankaj Kwatra <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Hello All, >>>> >>>> Brain power is really unexplored by science. How can a blind person see >>>> faces of people with just listening to their voice or shake hand but it >>>> is true. The image of any place is formed by spending some time at a >>>> particular area. How can person with no vision guide complete route on >>>> road without any visual inputs. The sense of smell , taste and hearing >>>> becomes powerful , you can judge things by mere heat where every living >>>> or mechanical energy in this world emits heat .The smell sensation >>>> becomes very powerful , it becomes difficult to control but it can be >>>> done with practice. Hearing power keeps the volume at 1 or it can go >>>> down to minimum if focused with no distraction. >>>> >>>> RGDS, >>>> >>>> Pankaj Kwatra >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Shadab >>>> Husain >>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:07 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, & >>>> hearing /speech impaired. >>>> >>>> In some dreams I see all the colours and faces while in some not. My >>>> laptop, I learnt a few days ago, is black. But I had thought that it >>>> is my favourite white, and I continue to see it white! I wear a jacket >>>> which is gray and black, but I used to think that it is my favourite >>>> blue and still I see it blue! I lost vision gradually but pretty >>>> curiously I suddenly realised that I have actually lost a considerable >>>> amount of it because I was habitual of seeing things. This time also >>>> my eyes are full of colours and brightness. Thank you, God! >>>> >>>> On 1/24/12, Asudani, Rajesh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Well, due to memory and reflexive habit, we tend to visualize to the >>>> extent >>>>> we could actually see once. >>>>> >>>>> This holds true for totally blind as well, for totally blind even by >>>> birth >>>>> are not usually plunged into total darkness unless they don't have >>>> eyes and >>>>> so on. >>>>> So, we cannot go beyond actual visual percepts, not even in our >>>> dreams. >>>>> So, I hold all claims of inner eyes etc. to be totally bogus and >>>> direly >>>>> misplaced... >>>>> A person who has never experienced light would essentially dream in a >>>> way >>>>> which does not include light, as I do dream without experiencing color >>>> as I >>>>> have never experienced it, and experience light only to a limited >>>> degree >>>>> which corresponds to my actual light perception. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of bijal >>>> patel >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 2:31 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, & >>>>> hearing /speech impaired. >>>>> >>>>> Hello all, >>>>> I lost my vision gradually and now even no light perception. If I am >>>>> talking about dreams, no any difference between present and past. Same >>>>> human being's faces, moments and world which I saw earlier. In my >>>>> daily routine life, I feel same visualization of objects, places and >>>>> relatives of which I saw in my past. Many times, during conversation, >>>>> my mind starts to imajine very minor human actions like moments of >>>>> eyes, lips, nose, including entire body according opposite person's >>>>> voice and situation. So several times, I forget whether I have really >>>>> no vision. I don't know it's a power of strong imagination, >>>>> visualization or memory. Yes, it's true, now having no colour >>>>> perception, my mind doesn't focus on colouring world, so many times, I >>>>> use to ask colour of objects, and then no problem! >>>>> Still waiting for experiences of totally/blind members. >>>>> While writing mail, one more query, Is there any devise which can show >>>>> our visualization or night dreams? Really smiling. >>>>> Thanks a lot for all interest. >>>>> Bijal. >>>>> >>>>> On 1/24/12, [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I too lost my vision over a 10 year deteriorating period. I cont see >>>> any >>>>>> images.con't even see my parents faces. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Sudhir R >>>>>> (NeSTIT) >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 12:41 PM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI,& >>>>>> hearing /speech impaired. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Did you lose your eye sight instantaneously (as in an accident like >>>>>> Harish) or over a very brief period of time (like Payal ) ? >>>>>> >>>>>> In such cases, the images stored in your brain must be crystal clear >>>>>> till the "n- 1'st moment. >>>>>> >>>>>> In my case, I lost my vision over a 10 year deteriorating period >>>>>> Perhaps, my brain stored progressively degraded images. >>>>>> >>>>>> Does this explain the difference between the two sets of >>>> contradictory >>>>>> reports ? (smile) >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sandeep >>>>>> Singh >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 12:33 PM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, >>>> & >>>>>> hearing /speech impaired. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> My experience is totally different. I still see the images and >>>>>> colours and evrything else as vividly as I used to. I can even see >>>>>> the faces of people exactly as I remember them and also as Harish >>>>>> wrote of those I have never seen. >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> Sandeep >>>>>> >>>>>> At 11:54 AM 24-01-12, you wrote: >>>>>>>Yes, indeed, Rajesh, there is a gradual deterioration in the quality >>>> of >>>>>>>images during dreams over the last 11 years of my total sight >>>>>>>impairment. As if, the archived visual data is degrading over a >>>>>> period >>>>>>>of time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>This is surprising, since I was under the impression that the >>>> brain >>>>>>>continued to store information with data integrity even long after >>>> the >>>>>>>individual could actually recollect it. I have read about >>>> experiments >>>>>>>where electrical stimulation of brain areas made the person actually >>>>>>>hear a song long after he had ceased to remember it. Your considered >>>>>>>views on this interesting subject, please, as an expert in human >>>>>>>Psychology. (smile) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>RS >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>>From: [email protected] >>>>>>>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Asudani, >>>>>>>Rajesh >>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:09 AM >>>>>>>To: [email protected] >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, >>>> & >>>>>>>hearing /speech impaired. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I wonder how clearly those who have lost sight late in life can have >>>>>>>visual perceptions in dreams? >>>>>>>Whether clarity diminishes with passage of time? because they don't >>>>>> have >>>>>>>visual sensations now in their waking life? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>>From: [email protected] >>>>>>>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kotian, >>>> H >>>>>> P >>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:58 AM >>>>>>>To: [email protected] >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, >>>> & >>>>>>>hearing /speech impaired. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Hi Bijal >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I suppose, dreams are just the manifestation of the world of your >>>>>>>awakened conscious state. What ever gives sensory inputs, those would >>>>>> be >>>>>>>reflected in the dream state. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Continuing with Vetri's comments, sexual experiences in dream would >>>> be >>>>>>>triggered by biological factors like those of hormones, scent, >>>> thoughts >>>>>>>etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Interesting topic. >>>>>>>Harish Kotian. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>>From: bijal patel [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>>Sent: 23 January 2012 23:11 >>>>>>>To: accessindia >>>>>>>Subject: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, & >>>>>>>hearing /speech impaired. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Dear friends, >>>>>>>It's just my curiosity to know about dreams during night of totally >>>>>>>and born blind as well as hearing/speech impaired person. >>>>>>>How are the dreams of such persons who never see colours in life? Is >>>>>>>there a dream of multi-coloured world? >>>>>>>And what about dreams of h i/ and s i, who never hear voice? >>>>>>>So please, explain. >>>>>>>Friends, this query is based only for scientific level. >>>>>>>Thanks. >>>>>>>Bijal Patel. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential >>>>>>>and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom >>>>>> they >>>>>>>are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any >>>>>> dissemination, >>>>>>>use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information >>>>>>>contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are >>>> strictly >>>>>>>prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify >>>> us >>>>>>>by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete >>>>>> the >>>>>>>message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email >>>> and >>>>>>>any attachments for the presence of viruses. 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