Dear Rajesh Sir,

I am a late blind & have been blind for nearly 11 years now.

Before losing my sight, my dreams used to be visual with little participation from the other senses. But after losing sight, my dreams are now more balanced between the visuals & sounds. Perhaps the continuation of the visual portion of the dreams is because my brain has learned how to see & still applies the memories of things seen previously into my dreams.

Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey
Mumbai, India
----- Original Message ----- From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, & hearing /speech impaired.


One query to all those who have gone blind late in life and have memories of dreaming both as sighted and blind.
Do dreams remain predominantly visual even after losing sight?


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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of rupa mukherjee
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 8:54 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, & hearing /speech impaired.

Hello friends,
A very nice & interesting topic to discuss. It's an opportunity to
know, how different people express their thoughts & desires while
dreaming. We never decide to visualise unpleasant dreams, but still
sometimes we see them.
I would like to share my feelings & views on the same, hope many have
the same view on this!
I lost my vision about 26/years back, but still now in dreams, I see
colours, faces  & objects, which I never saw even! May be I am a late
blind & seen colours & faces etc, helps me to visualise the things
better, but how, is my question?

I think, while talking to someone or touching or listening about
something, we imagine a basic image of that person or object & in our
dreams also we imagine that only. We might not visualise it actually,
but as we imagine during talking, touching or listening, we imagine
the same & say we can see all while dreaming. It's all our imagination
power, which really allows us to see in dreams & smile!
Sometimes in my dreams, I know I am blind, but still I see certain
colours, objects etc, really don't know why? It's really a puzzle, how
I visualise things in dreams, that too very clearly!
I even see new things also very well! Very surprising, but it's true.
I always regret, when the dream gets over!

Thanks & regards



On 1/28/12, Naushad Charivilayil <chittardigi...@gmail.com> wrote:
We can assume human brain as an information limited sub-reality machine.
Human brain create a sub-reality about what you see, hear, touch or feel
through the skin. This phenomenon is called persistence. Remember, when
your conscious, brain create a sub-reality, that happened micro-seconds
ago. Same way, Brain can create a sub reality in the form of dreams
because of your previous experiences like, peculiar thoughts,
persistence of your surroundings, fearful experiences during your
childhood period and so on, in the presence of subconscious mind. In
this case your brain does not have previous experience of vision. So it
is impossible to get a dream with eyesight.


On 1/27/2012 7:31 PM, m.chandrashekar wrote:
dear friends, i am getting dreams only voices, touches etc. no visual
experiences. in the dream also i am blind. this is very bad. is there
any methods to get visual dreams? i can imagine lot of things like a
sighted man, but, it is not appearing as a dream. atleast in the
dream, i wish to become sighted.
with best regards
m.chandru
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Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, &
hearing /speech impaired.


Hello all,
I lost my vision gradually and now even no light perception. If I am
talking about dreams, no any difference between present and past. Same
human being's faces, moments and world which I saw earlier. In my
daily routine life, I feel same visualization of objects, places and
relatives of which I saw in my past. Many times, during conversation,
my mind starts to imajine very minor human actions like moments of
eyes, lips, nose, including entire body according opposite person's
voice and situation. So several times, I forget whether I have really
no vision. I don't know it's a power of strong imagination,
visualization or memory. Yes, it's true, now having no colour
perception, my mind doesn't focus on colouring world, so many times, I
use to ask colour of objects, and then no problem!
Still waiting for experiences of totally/blind members.
While writing mail, one more query, Is there any devise which can show
our visualization or night dreams? Really smiling.
Thanks a lot for all interest.
Bijal.

On 1/24/12, hemase...@ingvysyabank.com <hemase...@ingvysyabank.com>
wrote:

 I too lost my vision over a 10 year deteriorating period. I cont see
any
images.con't even see my parents faces.

-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]On Behalf Of Sudhir R
(NeSTIT)
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 12:41 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI,&
hearing /speech impaired.


Did you lose your eye sight instantaneously (as in an accident like
Harish) or over a very brief period of time (like Payal ) ?

In such cases, the images stored in your brain must be crystal clear
till the "n- 1'st moment.

In my case, I lost my vision over a 10 year deteriorating period
Perhaps, my brain stored progressively degraded images.

Does this explain the difference between the two sets of contradictory
reports ? (smile)

-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sandeep
Singh
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 12:33 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, &
hearing /speech impaired.

Hi,
My experience is totally different. I still see the images and
colours and evrything else as vividly as I used to. I can even see
the faces of people exactly as I remember them and also as Harish
wrote of those I have never seen.
Best regards,
Sandeep

At 11:54 AM 24-01-12, you wrote:
Yes, indeed, Rajesh, there is a gradual deterioration in the quality of
images during dreams over the last 11 years of my total sight
impairment.  As if, the archived visual data  is degrading over a
period
of time.

This is surprising, since I was under the impression that the brain continued to store information with data integrity even long after the
individual could actually recollect it.  I have read about experiments
where electrical stimulation of brain areas made the person actually
hear a song long after he had ceased to remember it.  Your considered
views on this interesting subject, please, as an expert in human
Psychology. (smile)

RS

-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani,
Rajesh
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:09 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, &
hearing /speech impaired.

I wonder how clearly those who have lost sight late in life can have
visual perceptions in dreams?
Whether clarity diminishes with passage of time? because they don't
have
visual sensations now in their waking life?



-----Original Message-----
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kotian, H
P
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:58 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, &
hearing /speech impaired.

Hi Bijal

I suppose, dreams are just the manifestation of the world of your
awakened conscious state. What ever gives sensory inputs, those would
be
reflected in the dream state.

Continuing with Vetri's comments, sexual experiences in dream would be
triggered by biological factors like those of hormones, scent, thoughts
etc.

Interesting topic.
Harish Kotian.

-----Original Message-----
From: bijal patel [mailto:bijalpatel...@gmail.com]
Sent: 23 January 2012 23:11
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, &
hearing /speech impaired.

Dear friends,
It's just my curiosity to know about dreams during night of totally
and born blind as well as hearing/speech impaired person.
How are the dreams of such persons who never see colours in life? Is
there a dream of multi-coloured world?
And what about dreams of h i/ and s i, who never hear voice?
So please, explain.
Friends, this query is based only for scientific level.
Thanks.
Bijal Patel.



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