Hi,
Sorry! There is a little difference between Hindi and Marathi font in few
letters. For there is a dot under य in Hindi but not in Marathi font; and
few other differences which I want to avoide.
If you don't mind then send your mobile no. on my personal email id so that
I may explain my problem to you more better way.
Thank you.
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From: "Him Prasad Gautam" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 1:05 PM
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled." <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AI] Tamil Unicode Typewriter Keyboard Layout
hi,
Let you be further clear.
1. In both Marathi and Hindi language, the Devanagari letters are used.
Hence there is no different in letters. Only the name is different.
Either you use Hindi or Marathi or Konkani or Nepali key layout; you
will type the same
letters.
In Hindi keylayout also, you can use Marathi fonts.
Basically there is no Marathi or Hindi or nepali Fonts.
All they are Devanagari fonts.
Sorry again, you are in wrong assumption.
No difference in alphabets in Hindi Marathi and Hindi at all.
On 3/9/15, Mukesh Baviskar <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Him Prasad Gautam,
Thank you for explanation regarding phonetic typing. I agree with you.
Before Google input tool I use the Marathi language which I set in
regional
language-keyboard-Marathi but it types Hindi letters instead of Marathi
letters. So I dropped it and switched to Google input tool. But, still
there
is a another problem of selecting proper word. I want to use Marathi
typing
using Marathi font instead of Hindi font.
I appreciate you for providing the better solution for Unicode Marathi
typing. I'm ready to switch a better system which will solve my problem
and
easy to use.
"If you really want switch to such system in which you will not get any
problem for ever, then i can provide the best solution specially
suitable for screen reader users. "
As per your thoughts mentioned above I by heart appreciate your efforts
to
overcome my problem positively.
Please suggest me a better solution positively.
Waiting to receive a solution from you soon.
Thanking you in anticipation.
Regards,
Mukesh Baviskar
Mobile: 9403161157
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From: "Him Prasad Gautam" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 11:12 AM
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled." <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AI] Tamil Unicode Typewriter Keyboard Layout
hi Mukesh,
Unfortunately, I have to again say that your choice is inappropriate.
In any case, Google input should not be used by screen reader users.
First of all, be clear:
1. Do not use that keyboard layout that does not directly type your
local letters.
2. If a different system generates the letter of the desired local
letters on the basis of your English type, the problem you are facing
is eminent.
3. You have to either face the problem that you raised or use
alternate proper typing system.
4. The option of words choice is purely designed for sited person and
it contradicts to VI person.
5. Do not seek way out in that system which is contradictory to your
context.
6. Even for sited person, Google input is suitable in web pages but it
creates problem in some applications.
If you really want switch to such system in which you will not get any
problem for ever, then i can provide the best solution specially
suitable for screen reader users. However, you have to determined to
abandon what you are using now. Otherwise, problem is eminent in your
contemporary use.
I surprised why our VI friends want the same speed of motor cycle in
cycle. If you change the vehicle, you have to practice the new system
of the new vehicle. The desire of our Tamil friend is a good example
of traditional stickiness.
It is the man who should be compatible to technology but all
technologies will not fulfill every person's wish and habitability.
Sorry for speaking bitter words of the ground reality. It is a fact
and solution.
On 3/9/15, Mukesh Baviskar <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
To use phonetic keyboard for typing Marathi I installed Google input
tool
which is working fine. But, I'm facing a problem of selecting a proper
word
in Marathi options after typing a phonetic English word for it. The
pronunciation of most words are similar which is a main problem for me.
For example:
To typing my name 'Mukesh'
After typing a spelling 'Mukesh'
I'm getting following options:
मुकेश
मूकेश
मुकेष
मूकेष
मुकेस
मूकेस
The first one is correct but how can I choose a correct word because
the
pronunciation of both options is similar?
Thanking you,
Regards,
Mukesh Baviskar
Mobile: 9403161157
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From: "Him Prasad Gautam" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 7:50 AM
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled." <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AI] Tamil Unicode Typewriter Keyboard Layout
hi,
Your wish only to use traditionally designed typewriter layout is not
appropriate to your physical condition. However, if you desire so, I
just suggest you to understand the following reality. Just understand,
what action to take is your decision.
1. Typewriter layout were designed for typewriter, a different machine
at that time when no one has listen the word 'Computer'. At the
beginning of the computer use in this region; to please those person
who were familiar, to typewriter and make them to switch computer,
the typewriter layout was introduced in computer system which was
basically a wrong approach. It means what you were taught was a
outcome of the idea of making please of old typists in passed decades.
If the leading personality of computer
technology introducing at the beginning may not have tried to please
handful typists of that time, today millions people who use computer
in their daily life would not b in problem as you are facing today.
What you learn is
inappropriate.
2. Phonetic layout suits for those person who frequently use English
and local language.
3. Traditional layout does not suit for screen reader users. But,
finally if you still prefer traditional layout, just adopt the
Microsoft made Tamil layout. it has many benefits.
a. It is already available in your computer and will always be in
future too. It is not necessary to download and install from outside.
b. This layout will be available in any computer having windows
operating system installed. It means you can type Tamil in any
computer of the world. If you use a particular layout, you may not be
able to type in that computer in which your layout is not installed.
4. However, what ever layout to use, for a visually impaired person;
the layout which has the following characteristics is appropriate to
screen reader user.
a. It must not type more than one character on single key press (no
macro!).
b. It should not have an option in which more than one key press is
needed to generate one character (multi key press type single
letter!).
c. It should not have assigned control or alt keys for typing purposes
(No use of modifie for typingr!).
That's the key point to understand.
On 3/8/15, Jayachandran. T <[email protected]> wrote:
All,
Anybody can guide me to get Tamil Unicode Typewriter Keyboard Layout
for
typing Tamil.
Here in Tamil Nadu, There are few e mail groups, in which all the
visually
challenged people are writing mails in Tamil. Among them, few are
using
NHM
writer keyboard, Indic keyboard and other keyboards.
Since I have finished Tamil typewriting both lower and higher when I
was
having good sight, I am not interested to use these phoenetic
keyboards.
I
dont want to learn some other keyboard layouts. Because if I
practice
some
other keyboard layout and I use it regularly, I can forget my
typewriting
keyboard layout. Moreover, I have very good speed in typewriter
layout.
In NHM writer by pressing f5 we can go to typewriter keyboard layout.
But
the problem is while we type the Tamil, it doesnt says anything. But
after
when we make it to readout it reads. While typing it doesnt says
anything.
So, I am unable to use this NHM writer.
I used both JAWS and NVDA.
If anybody using typewriter keyboard layouts for their regional
languages,
can also guide me. I may try to use Tamil typewriter keyboard layout
in
the
same option if it is available.
Could anybody can guide me in this issue.
Thanks in advance.
Jayachandran. T
9677294410
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