On 3/9/15, Mukesh Baviskar <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Him Prasad Gautam,
> Thank you for explanation regarding phonetic typing. I agree with you.
> Before Google input tool I use the Marathi language which I set in regional
> language-keyboard-Marathi but it types Hindi letters instead of Marathi
> letters. So I dropped it and switched to Google input tool. But, still there
> is a another problem of selecting proper word. I want to use Marathi typing
> using Marathi font instead of Hindi font.
>
> I appreciate you for providing the better solution for Unicode Marathi
> typing. I'm ready to switch a better system which will solve my problem and
> easy to use.
>
> "If you really want switch to such system in which you will not get any
> problem for ever, then i can provide the best solution specially
> suitable for screen reader users. "
>
> As per your thoughts mentioned above I by heart appreciate your efforts to
> overcome my problem positively.
>
> Please suggest me a better solution positively.
>
> Waiting to receive a solution from you soon.
>
> Thanking you in anticipation.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mukesh Baviskar
> Mobile: 9403161157
>
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> From: "Him Prasad Gautam" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 11:12 AM
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerningthe disabled." <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [AI] Tamil Unicode Typewriter Keyboard Layout
>
>> hi Mukesh,
>> Unfortunately, I have to again say that your choice is inappropriate.
>> In any case, Google input should not be used by screen reader users.
>> First of all, be clear:
>> 1. Do not use that keyboard layout that does not directly type your
>> local letters.
>> 2. If a different system generates the letter of the desired local
>> letters on the basis of your English type, the problem you are facing
>> is eminent.
>> 3. You have to either face the problem that you raised or use
>> alternate proper typing system.
>> 4. The option of words choice is purely designed for sited person and
>> it contradicts  to VI person.
>> 5. Do not seek way out in that system which is contradictory to your
>> context.
>> 6. Even for sited person, Google input is suitable in web pages but it
>> creates problem in some applications.
>> If you really want switch to such system in which you will not get any
>> problem for ever, then i can provide the best solution specially
>> suitable for screen reader users. However, you have to determined to
>> abandon what you are using now. Otherwise, problem is eminent in your
>> contemporary use.
>> I surprised why our VI friends want the same speed of motor cycle in
>> cycle. If you change the vehicle, you have to practice the new system
>> of the new vehicle. The desire of our Tamil friend is a good example
>> of traditional stickiness.
>> It is the man who should be compatible to technology but all
>> technologies  will not fulfill every person's wish and habitability.
>> Sorry for speaking bitter words of the ground reality. It is a fact
>> and solution.
>>
>> On 3/9/15, Mukesh Baviskar <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>             Hi,
>>> To use phonetic keyboard for typing Marathi I installed Google input tool
>>> which is working fine. But, I'm facing a problem of selecting a proper
>>> word
>>> in Marathi options after typing a phonetic English word for it. The
>>> pronunciation of most words are similar which is a main problem for me.
>>>
>>> For example:
>>>
>>> To typing my name 'Mukesh'
>>>
>>> After typing a spelling 'Mukesh'
>>>
>>> I'm getting following options:
>>>
>>> मुकेश
>>> मूकेश
>>> मुकेष
>>> मूकेष
>>> मुकेस
>>> मूकेस
>>>
>>> The first one is correct but how can I choose a correct word because the
>>> pronunciation of both options is similar?
>>>
>>> Thanking you,
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Mukesh Baviskar
>>> Mobile: 9403161157
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Him Prasad Gautam" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 7:50 AM
>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerningthe disabled." <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Tamil Unicode Typewriter Keyboard Layout
>>>
>>>> hi,
>>>> Your wish only to use traditionally designed typewriter layout is not
>>>> appropriate to your physical condition. However, if you desire so, I
>>>> just suggest you to understand the following reality. Just understand,
>>>> what action to take is your decision.
>>>> 1. Typewriter layout were designed for typewriter, a different machine
>>>> at that time when no one has listen the word 'Computer'. At the
>>>> beginning of the computer use in this region; to please those person
>>>> who were familiar,  to typewriter and make them to switch computer,
>>>> the typewriter layout was introduced in computer system which was
>>>> basically a wrong approach. It means what you were taught was a
>>>> outcome of the idea of making please of old typists in passed decades.
>>>> If the leading personality of computer
>>>> technology introducing at the beginning may not have tried to please
>>>> handful typists of that time, today millions people who use computer
>>>> in their daily life would not b in problem as you are facing today.
>>>> What you learn is
>>>> inappropriate.
>>>> 2. Phonetic layout suits for those person who frequently use English
>>>> and local language.
>>>> 3. Traditional layout does not suit for screen reader users. But,
>>>> finally if you still prefer traditional layout, just adopt the
>>>> Microsoft made Tamil layout. it has many benefits.
>>>> a. It is already available in your computer and will always be in
>>>> future too. It is not necessary to download and install from outside.
>>>> b. This layout will be available in any computer having windows
>>>> operating system installed. It means you can type Tamil in any
>>>> computer of the world. If you use a particular layout, you may not be
>>>> able to type in that computer in which your layout is not installed.
>>>> 4. However, what ever layout to use, for a visually impaired person;
>>>> the layout which has the following characteristics is appropriate to
>>>> screen reader user.
>>>> a. It must not type more than one character on single key press (no
>>>> macro!).
>>>> b. It should not have an option in which more than one key press is
>>>> needed to generate one character (multi key press type single
>>>> letter!).
>>>> c. It should not have assigned control or alt keys for typing purposes
>>>> (No use of modifie for typingr!).
>>>> That's the key point to understand.
>>>>
>>>> On 3/8/15, Jayachandran. T <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Anybody can guide me to get Tamil Unicode Typewriter Keyboard Layout
>>>>> for
>>>>> typing Tamil.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here in Tamil Nadu, There are few e mail groups, in which all the
>>>>> visually
>>>>> challenged people are writing mails in Tamil.  Among them, few are
>>>>> using
>>>>> NHM
>>>>>
>>>>> writer keyboard, Indic keyboard and other keyboards.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since I have finished Tamil typewriting both lower and higher when I
>>>>> was
>>>>> having good sight, I am not interested to use these phoenetic
>>>>> keyboards.
>>>>> I
>>>>>
>>>>> dont want to learn some other keyboard layouts.  Because if I practice
>>>>> some
>>>>>
>>>>> other keyboard layout and I use it regularly, I can forget my
>>>>> typewriting
>>>>> keyboard layout.  Moreover, I have very good speed in typewriter
>>>>> layout.
>>>>>
>>>>> In NHM writer by pressing f5 we can go to typewriter keyboard layout.
>>>>> But
>>>>> the problem is while we type the Tamil, it doesnt says anything.  But
>>>>> after
>>>>>
>>>>> when we make it to readout it reads.  While typing it doesnt says
>>>>> anything.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, I am unable to use this NHM writer.
>>>>>
>>>>> I used both JAWS and NVDA.
>>>>>
>>>>> If anybody using typewriter keyboard layouts for their regional
>>>>> languages,
>>>>> can also guide me.  I may try to use Tamil typewriter keyboard layout
>>>>> in
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>> same option if it is available.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could anybody can guide me in this issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jayachandran. T
>>>>> 9677294410
>>>>>
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