jp EnlightenmentGuy My answer directly points to your spiritual heart centre if you had the open-mindedness to check the video instead of whining around that you are all alone. Yeah you are on your own. Welcome to the world of loneliness. There is only one. And that one is also everyone. I don't know what makes your boat float. You know it.
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 10:42 PM, roomsearching <[email protected]>wrote: > The problem is that we are all already that. Some people here know exactly > what it is. > Most people almost have a 90% idea of what it is but they are not yet sure. > > I don't think you are a fool. No need to discuss this shit. > > On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 9:13 PM, jp EnlightenmentGuy < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> This always happens: >> >> I ask an extremely succinct, easy-to-understand, fundamental question >> and I get one of two responses: >> >> 1. So called "regular" people look at me like I am dumb as a bag of >> rocks for even asking such a silly question about something so >> obvious. "Nobody thinks about this stuff, what is wrong with you? You >> need to get out and get LAID already!!!" >> >> 2. So called "spiritual" people respond with things that are really >> clear like "Sufi dervishes go Hoo Hooo Hoooo". Or equally as helpful, >> "So, WHO is asking the question? WHO is it that is confused? >> Whoooo..... Whooooooooo......." which they repeat a zillion times, >> like I haven't heard that a zillion times before. >> >> Will I ever learn? The more I seek answers from others, the more I >> find I am on my own. >> >> Those that aren't "on the path" likely never will be -- trying to ask >> them about it, or worse -- trying to get them to join in on it -- >> leads to inevitable frustration. There is nothing for me there. There >> is nothing for me, with 99.9999++% of humanity. >> >> And I suspect almost all people who SEEM to be "on the path", those >> who show up at retreats and Satsangs, or worse -- ridiculous >> discussion boards like this -- are just tourists, interested in "this >> stuff", or think its cool, another fun mental-masturbation exercise, >> or this is just another cool spiritual thing they are incorporating >> into their plethora of other neato spiritual thingeys they are >> sampling. Sure seems that way. Seems to be nothing for me here, >> either. >> >> On my own. >> >> Hopefully, finally, DAMMIT, hopefully totally on my own............... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jun 17, 1:26 pm, jp EnlightenmentGuy <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > I have heard many spiritual teachers just dismissively say things >> > like, >> > >> > "You can't be anything that changes, right? You are not the body, or >> > mind, or memories, or personality or whatever." >> > >> > Really? >> > >> > I'll bet 99.99%++ of all humans who have ever existed would agree with >> > what is written below. Can you say, clearly, why this is not >> > accurate?? >> > >> > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> > >> > Who or what am I? I am a body, with certain attributes and abilities >> > (physical and mental), born to parents, exposed to things in the >> > environment, having had experiences I have collected memories, and >> > developed beliefs and a personality (with all its many sub- >> > attributes). >> > >> > If I had been born to different parents (or adopted as an infant), or >> > born at a different time, or born into a different body, or born in a >> > different place, or in a different culture/society, then I would in >> > fact be a different person. >> > >> > That is what a "person" is -- a unique, ever-changing, body/mind/ >> > personality, that is born, lives for a while, then dies. >> > >> > That is what I am. >> > >> > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >> > >> > How clear can you be in pointing out how, exactly, this is inaccurate? >> > >> > Thank you! >> > >
