The problem is that we are all already that. Some people here know exactly what it is. Most people almost have a 90% idea of what it is but they are not yet sure. I don't think you are a fool. No need to discuss this shit.
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 9:13 PM, jp EnlightenmentGuy < [email protected]> wrote: > This always happens: > > I ask an extremely succinct, easy-to-understand, fundamental question > and I get one of two responses: > > 1. So called "regular" people look at me like I am dumb as a bag of > rocks for even asking such a silly question about something so > obvious. "Nobody thinks about this stuff, what is wrong with you? You > need to get out and get LAID already!!!" > > 2. So called "spiritual" people respond with things that are really > clear like "Sufi dervishes go Hoo Hooo Hoooo". Or equally as helpful, > "So, WHO is asking the question? WHO is it that is confused? > Whoooo..... Whooooooooo......." which they repeat a zillion times, > like I haven't heard that a zillion times before. > > Will I ever learn? The more I seek answers from others, the more I > find I am on my own. > > Those that aren't "on the path" likely never will be -- trying to ask > them about it, or worse -- trying to get them to join in on it -- > leads to inevitable frustration. There is nothing for me there. There > is nothing for me, with 99.9999++% of humanity. > > And I suspect almost all people who SEEM to be "on the path", those > who show up at retreats and Satsangs, or worse -- ridiculous > discussion boards like this -- are just tourists, interested in "this > stuff", or think its cool, another fun mental-masturbation exercise, > or this is just another cool spiritual thing they are incorporating > into their plethora of other neato spiritual thingeys they are > sampling. Sure seems that way. Seems to be nothing for me here, > either. > > On my own. > > Hopefully, finally, DAMMIT, hopefully totally on my own............... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 17, 1:26 pm, jp EnlightenmentGuy <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I have heard many spiritual teachers just dismissively say things > > like, > > > > "You can't be anything that changes, right? You are not the body, or > > mind, or memories, or personality or whatever." > > > > Really? > > > > I'll bet 99.99%++ of all humans who have ever existed would agree with > > what is written below. Can you say, clearly, why this is not > > accurate?? > > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > > Who or what am I? I am a body, with certain attributes and abilities > > (physical and mental), born to parents, exposed to things in the > > environment, having had experiences I have collected memories, and > > developed beliefs and a personality (with all its many sub- > > attributes). > > > > If I had been born to different parents (or adopted as an infant), or > > born at a different time, or born into a different body, or born in a > > different place, or in a different culture/society, then I would in > > fact be a different person. > > > > That is what a "person" is -- a unique, ever-changing, body/mind/ > > personality, that is born, lives for a while, then dies. > > > > That is what I am. > > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > > > How clear can you be in pointing out how, exactly, this is inaccurate? > > > > Thank you! >
