you weren't ignorant - before self realisation you thought you knew something right?
in a sense you woke up to your ignorance ignorance is bliss right? you sense the bliss and there is no you having any ideas as to why? and try to define it and know it and poof ego is right back enjoy the sense of falling falling and don't try to hold on to anything on the way up :-) On 19 June 2010 12:56, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > Thats true. But I would like to count all the years that I was shamefully > ignorant and unrealized like some people on this forum still are . example - > jpEnlightenmentguy > > On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> Realisation takes no time... >> Not being self realised took you 28 years and maybe a year of that doing >> kundalini and not being realised. >> Realisation itself took no time - it simply happened istantaneously. >> >> Sent from an iPhone >> On 19 Jun 2010, at 11:09, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Welcome jPEnlightenment. >> Have you ever had kundalini ? >> I have it. Do you know what it means ? It means lifelong nutty behaviour. >> Your bed will shake at night. You will become a recluse. People will think >> you are mental and you would even believe them. :) >> >> Have you experienced Self-realization ? >> I have and it takes a minimum of 1 year to get it (excluding my overall >> life-experience and maturity of 28 years at the time and maybe genetics and >> previous birth karma which I dont believe). >> >> Do you think I am a spiritual person or a Sufi Dervish ? >> Well, before I started this, I was only interested in fucking chicks and I >> did spend a lot of time trying to pick up girls. >> >> Do you think I do mental-masturbation ? >> I masturbate physically at least once a day because kundalini/Self >> realization for some reason improves health and increases sperm production. >> The mind is perfectly still, blissful and it does not tolerate mental >> activity. >> >> Who are you ? >> You are a ridiculous and pathetic person. Or you must be an >> over-enthusiastic Indian guy which some people call as noob. >> Are you ? >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Anandanand <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> And welcome jpE >>> >>> On Jun 19, 1:42 pm, Anandanand <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > Rediculous discussion boards? What makes you say that? is it due to >>> > the answers/ responses/ replys you got or you thought so even before >>> > asking the question ? Or is there another reason ? >>> > >>> > On Jun 19, 1:13 am, jp EnlightenmentGuy <[email protected]> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > > This always happens: >>> > >>> > > I ask an extremely succinct, easy-to-understand, fundamental question >>> > > and I get one of two responses: >>> > >>> > > 1. So called "regular" people look at me like I am dumb as a bag of >>> > > rocks for even asking such a silly question about something so >>> > > obvious. "Nobody thinks about this stuff, what is wrong with you? >>> > > You >>> > > need to get out and get LAID already!!!" >>> > >>> > > 2. So called "spiritual" people respond with things that are really >>> > > clear like "Sufi dervishes go Hoo Hooo Hoooo". Or equally as >>> > > helpful, >>> > > "So, WHO is asking the question? WHO is it that is confused? >>> > > Whoooo..... Whooooooooo......." which they repeat a zillion times, >>> > > like I haven't heard that a zillion times before. >>> > >>> > > Will I ever learn? The more I seek answers from others, the more I >>> > > find I am on my own. >>> > >>> > > Those that aren't "on the path" likely never will be -- trying to ask >>> > > them about it, or worse -- trying to get them to join in on it -- >>> > > leads to inevitable frustration. There is nothing for me there. >>> > > There >>> > > is nothing for me, with 99.9999++% of humanity. >>> > >>> > > And I suspect almost all people who SEEM to be "on the path", those >>> > > who show up at retreats and Satsangs, or worse -- ridiculous >>> > > discussion boards like this -- are just tourists, interested in "this >>> > > stuff", or think its cool, another fun mental-masturbation exercise, >>> > > or this is just another cool spiritual thing they are incorporating >>> > > into their plethora of other neato spiritual thingeys they are >>> > > sampling. Sure seems that way. Seems to be nothing for me here, >>> > > either. >>> > >>> > > On my own. >>> > >>> > > Hopefully, finally, DAMMIT, hopefully totally on my >>> > > own............... >>> > >>> > > On Jun 17, 1:26 pm, jp EnlightenmentGuy >>> > > <[email protected]> >>> > > wrote: >>> > >>> > > > I have heard many spiritual teachers just dismissively say things >>> > > > like, >>> > >>> > > > "You can't be anything that changes, right? You are not the body, >>> > > > or >>> > > > mind, or memories, or personality or whatever." >>> > >>> > > > Really? >>> > >>> > > > I'll bet 99.99%++ of all humans who have ever existed would agree >>> > > > with >>> > > > what is written below. Can you say, clearly, why this is not >>> > > > accurate?? >>> > >>> > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >>> > >>> > > > Who or what am I? I am a body, with certain attributes and >>> > > > abilities >>> > > > (physical and mental), born to parents, exposed to things in the >>> > > > environment, having had experiences I have collected memories, and >>> > > > developed beliefs and a personality (with all its many sub- >>> > > > attributes). >>> > >>> > > > If I had been born to different parents (or adopted as an infant), >>> > > > or >>> > > > born at a different time, or born into a different body, or born in >>> > > > a >>> > > > different place, or in a different culture/society, then I would in >>> > > > fact be a different person. >>> > >>> > > > That is what a "person" is -- a unique, ever-changing, body/mind/ >>> > > > personality, that is born, lives for a while, then dies. >>> > >>> > > > That is what I am. >>> > >>> > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >>> > >>> > > > How clear can you be in pointing out how, exactly, this is >>> > > > inaccurate? >>> > >>> > > > Thank you! > > -- ________________________________________________________ The contents of this email and context of the message contained within are intended for the recipient only. 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