hehehe........ I don't believe anything anybody says.....
I only know what I experience first-hand, and being able to literally get into another person's mind, and see/experience their self/consciousness/mind with them, I have seen awareness, aware of itself, On Apr 20, 12:43 am, Sandeep-Kuber Technologies <[email protected]> wrote: > On 4/20/2011 10:43 AM, godszen wrote: > > > Sandeep-Kuber Technologies wrote: > >> Which is why, you-as-you-truly-are can never perceive yourself. > > >> Awareness-not-aware-of-itself-as awareness > > with the help of the human mind > > awareness can become aware of itself > > > *self-realization* > > When a tool is used, all that gets created/achieved/realized/reached is > a projection of the tool. > > That's all. > > It may be the most profoundest experience but still a projection of the > means that got used in the process. > > The other usual misunderstanding not just by you GZ but by most is about > term awareness. > > Awareness is always connoted as awareness of <whatever>. > > And that is why it is accepted to be a synonymous with witnessing. > > Typically it is held that there is no witnesser unless there is > something to be witnessed. > > But the as-if-ness of this, as witnessing......may have a sense of a > witnesser and the witnessed, but these are all > "a sense of" ....there are no , separated, discreted loci, on which > these could be perched. > > Which is why the pointing of that primordialness... > > ....as awareness not aware of anything, not itself, nor it's absence, > nor even of the much bandied about...nothingness. > > Don't go by the spiel that is being fed to you GZ, in the satsangh > circuit that you frequent. > > In and as self-realization, there is neither a self-to-realize, nor a > Self-to-be realized, nor any realizing. > > These are the same inducements that a salesman of second-hand cars use, > to sell you a lemon. > > If lemonade is all that you are looking for, sure go for the lemons.
