I find the SQL Server 2005 tools also a nightmare. I did a lengthy SSIS project which nearly finished me off. Because the SSIS packages's native format is xml it was taking sometimes 20 minutes to load the project. The management studio crashes. We have also bought into the whole Team Foundation Server which dare I say is also buggy. MSBuild is just a poor man's NAnt and the Unit testing project is a poor man's NUnit. Still regardless of the present issues, they just plough on with VS 2020 or whatever. I am annoyed. Is there a good case tool that can be used for .NET which will constantly update my model and vice versa? Am I alone in hating the class designer with Microsoft's typical own version of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 06:30:26 -0600> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: > [ADVANCED-DOTNET] has there been a service pack for .net 2.0?> To: > ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM> > I hope when I grow up I can be a cool > programmer like you, maybe I'll find> out what that build menu does soon.> > > -----Original Message-----> From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics.> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frans Bouma> Sent: Thursday, November > 23, 2006 5:57 AM> To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM> Subject: Re: > [ADVANCED-DOTNET] has there been a service pack for .net 2.0?> > > You're > right. I just play with the toolbars.. there's so many icons to> play> > with > .> > seriously: anyone who says that vs.net 2005 is very useful, hasn't> done > a lot of webform/winform development. I can crank> out a lot of code for > libraries in a couple of hours but with> webforms/winforms stuff, it simply > stops, there are so many little> stupid things which raise the stressbar and > make you stop being productive> it's stunning.> > The webform editor alone is > IMHO reason enough to quit Atlas dev for> now and move the team to fixing the > stuff people have> to work with TODAY.> > FB> > >> >> > -----Original > Message-----> > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics.> > [mailto:[EMAIL > PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frans Bouma> > Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 5:19 > AM> > To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM> > Subject: Re: > [ADVANCED-DOTNET] has there been a service pack for .net 2.0?> >> > > I think > VS2005 is Heads and Shoulders above VS2003. There's a few> quirks> > > with > the Forms designer and build state, but other than that, nothing> bad> > > > springs to mind. (Presuming you have GB's of RAM... anything less than> 1GB> > > > is torture)> >> > I see you never did any ASP.NET development or a lot of > Winforms> GUI> > development...> >> > FB> >> > >> > >> > > -----Original > Message-----> > > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics.> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Cowan> > > Sent: Thursday, > November 23, 2006 4:09 AM> > > To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM> > > > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] has there been a service pack for .net> 2.0?> > > >> > > Is anyone else dissatisfiedIs anyone else dissatisfied with the > tools> for> > > VS2005. I have been using VS2005 for about 10 months and find > it very> > > buggy.> > >> > > I also had the misfortune to use SQL Server > 2005 SSIS which was a most> > > regrettable experience.> > >> > > Microsoft > being Microsoft, there is no service pack and they are forging> > > ahead > with .NET 3.0 without a care to their current toolset being> riddled> > > > with bugs.> > > Does everyone use VS 2005 or is there maybe a better > alternative to this> > way> > > of developing.> > >> > > I love the framework > but hate the tools.> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > > Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 > 19:19:45 -0600> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] > has there been a service pack for .net> > 2.0?>> > > To: > ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM> > On my Windows Vista Ultimate> > x64> > > > RTM, the version is 2.0.50727.312> > > -----Original Message-----> From:> > > > Discussion of advanced .NET topics.>> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Keith Hill>> > Sent:> > > Wednesday, November 22, 2006 6:38 PM> > To:> > > ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM> Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] > has> > > there been a service pack for .net 2.0?> > > -----Original > Message----->> >> > > From: Julia Lerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: > Monday,> > > November 20, 2006 7:44 PM> > Subject: Re: has there been a > service pack> > for> > > .net 2.0?> >> > There will be some "tweaks" to .NET > 2.0 framework to> avoid> > > some> > compatibility issues with the .NET 3.0 > APIs.> >> > Quoting Scott> > > Nonnenburg who left this comment on one of my > blog posts:> > "We've made> > > SP-level fixes to .NET 2.0 components, doing > our best to avoid> >> breaking> > > changes."> >> > Perhaps that explains why > .NET 2.0 on XP (2.0.50727.42)> is> > > different than> .NET 2.0 on Vista > (2.0.50727.308)?> > --> Keith> >> > > ===================================> > This list is hosted by> DevelopMentor.> > > http://www.develop.com> > View > archives and manage your subscription(s)> at> > > http://discuss.develop.com> > > ===================================> This> > list> > > is hosted by > DevelopMentorR http://www.develop.com> > View archives and> > > manage your > subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com> > > > ===================================> > > This list is hosted by > DevelopMentorR http://www.develop.com> > >> > > View archives and manage your > subscription(s) at> > http://discuss.develop.com> > >> > > > ===================================> > > This list is hosted by > DevelopMentor. http://www.develop.com> > >> > > View archives and manage your > subscription(s) at> > http://discuss.develop.com> >> > > ===================================> > This list is hosted by DevelopMentor. > http://www.develop.com> >> > View archives and manage your subscription(s) > at> http://discuss.develop.com> >> > ===================================> > > This list is hosted by DevelopMentor. http://www.develop.com> >> > View > archives and manage your subscription(s) at> http://discuss.develop.com> > > ===================================> This list is hosted by DevelopMentor. > http://www.develop.com> > View archives and manage your subscription(s) at > http://discuss.develop.com> > ===================================> This list > is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com> > View archives and > manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com =================================== This list is hosted by DevelopMentor® http://www.develop.com View archives and manage your subscription(s) at http://discuss.develop.com
