Sorry for having an opinion.

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From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics.
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frans Bouma
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 6:37 AM
To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM
Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] has there been a service pack for .net 2.0?

> I hope when I grow up I can be a cool programmer like you,  maybe I'll
find
> out what that build menu does soon.

        yeah yeah blabla all you want... I just wanted to note that by
keeping up the marketing farce that there's nothing to worry
about, you do no-one a favor.

                FB

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics.
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frans Bouma
> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 5:57 AM
> To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM
> Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] has there been a service pack for .net 2.0?
>
> > You're right. I just play with the toolbars.. there's so many icons to
> play
> > with .
>
>         seriously: anyone who says that vs.net 2005 is very useful, hasn't
> done a lot of webform/winform development. I can crank
> out a lot of code for libraries in a couple of hours but with
> webforms/winforms stuff, it simply stops, there are so many little
> stupid things which raise the stressbar and make you stop being productive
> it's stunning.
>
>         The webform editor alone is IMHO reason enough to quit Atlas dev
for
> now and move the team to fixing the stuff people have
> to work with TODAY.
>
>                 FB
>
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics.
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frans Bouma
> > Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 5:19 AM
> > To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM
> > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] has there been a service pack for .net
2.0?
> >
> > > I think VS2005 is Heads and Shoulders above VS2003.  There's a few
> quirks
> > > with the Forms designer and build state, but other than that, nothing
> bad
> > > springs to mind. (Presuming you have GB's of RAM... anything less than
> 1GB
> > > is torture)
> >
> >         I see you never did any ASP.NET development or a lot of Winforms
> GUI
> > development...
> >
> >                 FB
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Discussion of advanced .NET topics.
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Cowan
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 4:09 AM
> > > To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM
> > > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] has there been a service pack for .net
> 2.0?
> > >
> > > Is anyone else dissatisfiedIs anyone else dissatisfied with the tools
> for
> > > VS2005.  I have been using VS2005 for about 10 months and find it very
> > > buggy.
> > >
> > > I also had the misfortune to use SQL Server 2005 SSIS which was a most
> > > regrettable experience.
> > >
> > > Microsoft being Microsoft, there is no service pack and they are
forging
> > > ahead with .NET 3.0 without a care to their current toolset being
> riddled
> > > with bugs.
> > > Does everyone use VS 2005 or is there maybe a better alternative to
this
> > way
> > > of developing.
> > >
> > > I love the framework but hate the tools.
> > >  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > > Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:19:45 -0600> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] has there been a service pack for .net
> > 2.0?>
> > > To: ADVANCED-DOTNET@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM> > On my Windows Vista
Ultimate
> > x64
> > > RTM, the version is 2.0.50727.312> > > -----Original Message----->
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