> > Yes, but does Perl have an IDE, and it's called CodeMagic/CodeMagicCD

[yes, I put in the parts you conveniently left out]

> Yes.
>
> As tom is fond of pointing out, and it's the UNIX CLI.

Tom is an open advocate against Win32 systems and users. Nothing he says
concerning Win32 can be considered objective, and anything he says about it
must be taken with a grain of salt.

> If that's not enough, ActiveState has announced two more
> graphical IDEs that are more like what you're talking about.
>
> http://www.activestate.com/Corporate/Media_Center/News/Press959117519.html
>
> http://www.activestate.com/Corporate/Media_Center/News/Press959150636.html

These do not exist yet, and when they do, God help us all. With Sarathy's
_admitted_ premature release, after an unprecedentedly short beta period and
rc period, of 5.6 (presumably to meet the M$ deadline for their cross
platform toolkit), and Dick's _admitted_ goal of monopoly, and ActiveState's
long history of corruption of the Perl language and core, and Microsoft's
admitted goal of stealing and/or destroying free commodities like Perl, and
with ActiveState's and Microsoft's long history of producing bug-ridden,
corrupted, bugs-never-fixed, acronym-enhanced, proprietarized systems barely
resembling the originals in order to attempt to make half [butted] attempts
to become the de-facto standards in those areas using false marketing, media
control, and inethical business practices, these products present an extreme
risk both to the users and to the Perl community as a whole. Be very careful
advocating these non-existant products: we don't know how much damage they
are going to do yet; and if there's one thing that we can be sure of, these
products will cause damage, both directly and indirectly, in many areas.
(BTW, didn't ActiveState promise us "Visual Perl" in spring of 1998? And
then again for the Perl Conference of 1998? And then again for October
1998?)

> And if that's not enough, occasionally when people say
> "IDE" they mean "Syntax Coloring".  Many vi clones and emacs
> (and BBEdit?) support that, so add them to the list.

Colors do not an IDE make.

> > corporate support
>
> Yes.
>
> It's called PerlDirect.
>
> http://www.activestate.com/Products/PerlDirect/index.html

Another caution flag.

The commercial support for Perl is and always has been centered in The Perl
Clinic, which is one source of the support that I was referring to, and
which ActiveState is a part of. The PerlDirect product is nothing more than
Perl with a pricetag. PerlDirect is not a support entity for the Perl
language.


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