Mando wrote:

"I think that working from one's soul will attain better Aesthetic results
than always making copies of models and expecting life to emerge.  That's like
playing 'mary had a little lamb' over and over and expect the classics to
emerge."

while William wrote:

"Every artist works with a model in mind, however vague
or eclectic.  The artist is always working for and
against some model of what art can be"


To put Mando's remark in context - it came shortly after he was looking at
internet pictures of my own sculptures, most of which (but not all) were begun
while studying a model --- the kind that takes her clothes off and stands
still in the middle of a drafty studio.  So ... I think that is the kind of
model to which he was referring.

Possibly Mando was just deploring the aesthetic results of my own humble
efforts -- but I think he was also suggesting that working from models (the
kind mentioned above) is only appropriate as an exercise for  students since
"one needs a good foundation before, in any creative endeavor" -- which then
led him to his grim conclusion that
"I get the feeling that you really don't know as much about art as i
thought."

And here I would protest -- not that I know a lot about art (especially since
I try to avoid that terrible word) -- but that the best aesthetic results can
only be achieved without the use of models (the kind that hold still and get
studied -- like people on a platform, or flowers on a table, or trees and
hills out in the countryside)

And I would assert that the use of this kind of model is a practice that is
unique to the Western European cultural tradition -- is especially appropriate
to the amateur (but not necessarily inferior) practitioner -- and will
continue to be practiced, mastered, and loved long after the quirky trends of
the 20th C.  have become historical footnotes.

It's practice is rather problematic (hare brained?)in sculpture -- because it
is so difficult, technical,  time consuming, and especially space devouring.

And yet with the work of Rodin and Count Trubetsky to encourage us -- we can
charge forward!





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