Sorry, Chris - the models that both William and Armando are referring to are
conceptual.  They are both concerned with preconceptions you bring to what
you will be doing - be it working from imagination or observation -
Chair, Visual Arts and Technologies
The Cleveland Institute of Art
 



> From: Chris Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: <[email protected]>
> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:16:05 GMT
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Models and soul
> 
> Mando wrote:
> 
> "I think that working from one's soul will attain better Aesthetic results
> than always making copies of models and expecting life to emerge.  That's like
> playing 'mary had a little lamb' over and over and expect the classics to
> emerge."
> 
> while William wrote:
> 
> "Every artist works with a model in mind, however vague
> or eclectic.  The artist is always working for and
> against some model of what art can be"
> 
> 
> To put Mando's remark in context - it came shortly after he was looking at
> internet pictures of my own sculptures, most of which (but not all) were begun
> while studying a model --- the kind that takes her clothes off and stands
> still in the middle of a drafty studio.  So ... I think that is the kind of
> model to which he was referring.
> 
> Possibly Mando was just deploring the aesthetic results of my own humble
> efforts -- but I think he was also suggesting that working from models (the
> kind mentioned above) is only appropriate as an exercise for  students since
> "one needs a good foundation before, in any creative endeavor" -- which then
> led him to his grim conclusion that
> "I get the feeling that you really don't know as much about art as i
> thought."
> 
> And here I would protest -- not that I know a lot about art (especially since
> I try to avoid that terrible word) -- but that the best aesthetic results can
> only be achieved without the use of models (the kind that hold still and get
> studied -- like people on a platform, or flowers on a table, or trees and
> hills out in the countryside)
> 
> And I would assert that the use of this kind of model is a practice that is
> unique to the Western European cultural tradition -- is especially appropriate
> to the amateur (but not necessarily inferior) practitioner -- and will
> continue to be practiced, mastered, and loved long after the quirky trends of
> the 20th C.  have become historical footnotes.
> 
> It's practice is rather problematic (hare brained?)in sculpture -- because it
> is so difficult, technical,  time consuming, and especially space devouring.
> 
> And yet with the work of Rodin and Count Trubetsky to encourage us -- we can
> charge forward!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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