There would seem to be three possible responses to  an ideology: subscription,
rejection, and selection (i.e. picking and choosing favorable elements).

Regarding the one under discussion (call it German Idealism?) -- here's how
our group seems to be sorting out:

*subscription: (Saul, Luc)
*rejection: (Cheerskep, Mando, Miller)
*picking and choosing: William, Boris, Kate

In response the query that began this thread, it's interesting that even Saul
did not find M.H.'s  discussion of thingness to be  especially enlightening.
(i.e. -- it's  just Kantian discourse embedded in MH's phenomenology).

I suppose there's no point in arguing matters of faith -- either you subscribe
to Kantian discourse, or you don't -- but I do think that the middle ground is
very problematic - since it's an essentialist program -- and if you're
rejecting the essentials, you're rejecting the whole thing.

And there have been some rather catastrophic consequences when branches of
this discourse, Marxism and Fascism,  were adopted by totalitarian regimes in
the previous century.

(regarding the dire consequences of German idealism in the artworld, I suppose
that's just a matter of taste)




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