I can generally get a building permit to use a public utility ROW or the side 
of a street for almost free.  
Perhaps use a customers home for everything in exchange for service etc.  

I agree, for 30 PON is a good way to go.  But I like the simplicity of AE, the 
fact that I can cast shade on PON based competitors and not having to deal with 
splitters.  

And I do PON all day long with Calix.  But for a non regulated for profit 
startup, Calix is not the way to go.
However I do not trust UBNT in this space... yet...


From: Colin Stanners 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 1:18 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber

ActiveEthernet: Property acquisition for the land, legal fees, concrete pad, 
electrical install, cabinet, UPS, heating/cooling, fiber switch is probably 
$10,000 - 15,000 including cost of time. When we're busy I'm not sure that it 
would be worth doing for only 30 homes.

PON: two 1x16 fiber splitters that fit in existing splice cases and require 
none of that support cost $60 each.

Shared bandwidth...16 customers sharing 2.5gbit fiber looks pretty good when we 
still have tower sites with 16 customers on a 10mbit 2.4Ghz FSK AP. And 10Gbit 
GPON seems to be coming soon... 




On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 2:04 PM <[email protected]> wrote:

  If you have one strand going out there, you hang a switch and give all 30 
homes active E.  

  Each home needs a drop.  
  So you have to connect the drop to either a splitter or an SFP.  

  With AE you will have to power the switch but then  you have no shared 
bandwidth, it has market cache vs shared bandwidth old fashioned GPON etc...



  From: Colin Stanners 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:57 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber

  That's the main reason, and it branches into upgradeability. If a new 
30-house subdivision appears in a field a few miles from your headend, and you 
have a spare 10 strands going out there, you only need to use 2-3 strands 
instead of running new 48-strand cable the whole way.


  On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 1:53 PM <[email protected]> wrote:

    So, other than the obvious strand count advantages, why would you use this 
vs active ethernet?

    From: Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] 
    Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:04 PM
    To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber

    It works fine.  We have it in 2 subdivisions.
    It is brain dead simple to configure.

    Since it “Just Works” there isn’t a lot to configure.  The ONU (cpe) can 
run in bridge or router mode.  I’m not sure what the routing/NAT speeds are 
capable of but it will do 1G in bridge mode without breaking a sweat.



    Jim Bouse
    Owner - Brazos WiFi
    979-985-5912
    http://www.brazoswifi.com



    From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
    Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:17 PM
    To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
    Subject: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber



    Does anyone actually have this equipment in a production environment?  I 
have a test setup, just haven't heard much discussion about it so I thought I'd 
check with the group.



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