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Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Sep 4, 2018, at 9:36 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, I'd rather do that any day of the week.  Frankly, I'm not interested in 
> one time work from most internet customers.  They'll try to hold you 
> responsible for that PTP connection until the end of time even though you 
> only got paid for it once.  
> 
> Plus your tech support deals with internet connections every single day so 
> adding one more internet connection for them to support doesn't hurt, but 
> adding special stuff means they have to know how to support the special 
> stuff.  
> 
> Just my 2c.
> 
> 
>> On 9/4/2018 6:26 PM, castarritt wrote:
>> We used to default to offering a PTP for a one time fee, and a ~90 day 
>> warranty.  Now we default to offering a second PTMP service at the full 
>> price, and it is surprising how many people bite on that.   We still do some 
>> PTPs when customers don't have LOS at the second site, but mostly it is to 
>> avoid losing their business by failing to meet their needs.
>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 2:32 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Depends I guess.   IMO it's important to have a demarc point.  It could be 
>>> the CPE, PoE, Surge protector, jack on the wall, whatever.  You pick a 
>>> point and anything before that point is your responsibility.  IMO it should 
>>> be a point where you can remotely test everything up to that spot.  
>>> Anything past that point is billable either as T&M, or as a recurring 
>>> managed service. 
>>> 
>>> Anything you're doing past the demarc is creating a blurry area in people's 
>>> minds.  Your techs don't know where to stop working for free, and the 
>>> customer doesn't know whether they should call you or call a computer fixin 
>>> guy.  They'll default to calling you.
>>> 
>>> So yeah, I'd do a cheapo point to point link with outdoor bridges for $400. 
>>>  Or I might do it for $10-$15/month as a recurring service.  My rule of 
>>> thumb is equipment cost/12, round to fives.   If it's a recurring fee then 
>>> they'll expect support, so I'd make sure people know they have to meet the 
>>> same standards as any other installation, and that the equipment needs to 
>>> be remotely manageable.
>>> 
>>> If it's a separate, second internet connection then just charge full price 
>>> for it.  It's putting the same load on your infrastructure as the first 
>>> connection, so why they should they get a discount for it?
>>> 
>>> -Adam
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 9/4/2018 1:47 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>>>> Been having a lot of customers lately wanting internet service in extra 
>>>> buildings, garages, barns. In the past i have helped them do this but not 
>>>> added any monthly bill for it and it seems like half the time end up 
>>>> having to go back for service call to fix an issue in a building basically 
>>>> not getting any monthly residual for. Does anyone offer to customer the 
>>>> ability to hook up extra buildings on their property and charge them 
>>>> monthly for it? I am thinking another monthly bill for same package they 
>>>> are on -$10 month since its a second building. So if their main home is 
>>>> $50/month second building is additional $40. Anyone else doing this?
>>>> 
>>>> 
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