I take it higher db == better??

On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 12:16 PM <[email protected]> wrote:

> Finally got one of the new Cambium units in for testing.  It is similar to
> my GigE-SS and CAT6-SS in most parameters.  Insertion Loss, NEXT etc.  But
> there is a major difference in Return Loss.
> Return Loss measures how much signal bounces back from the far end.  On
> 100 Mbps Ethernet circuits it doesn’t matter because each pair is simplex.
> But with GigE circuits each pair is duplex and any reflected energy can
> combine with the desired signal coming from the far end and cause errors.
>
> Pairs    Cambium    MTC
> 1/2        10.3(db)      30.2
> 3/6        11.6            28.9
> 4/5        10.5            26.3
> 7/8        10.0            25.9
>
> *From:* Jaime Fink
> *Sent:* Friday, September 21, 2018 11:57 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450
>
>
> Can only guess at the motivations, but this is only a test they did in
> their controlled lab, we haven’t seen this as a problem with that ISP in
> the lightning season in the field reported to us, and we of course lab test
> at much higher kV levels than the ones they claim generally, the ISP did
> their own testing as well with specific radios. So as Chuck said, I’d
> consider the source.
>
>
>
> Jaime Fink • Mimosa <http://www.mimosa.co/> • CTO & Co-Founder
>
>
>
> *From: *AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Josh Luthman <
> [email protected]>
> *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> *Date: *Friday, September 21, 2018 at 10:49 AM
> *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450
>
>
>
> But why go out of the way to do all this work if it doesn't cause
> problems?  They're not making enough sales on their own surge suppressor,
> which I didn't even know exists...
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
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>
> On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 1:37 PM, Jaime Fink <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Agree Chuck, and similar anonymous 3rd parties also confirm their largest
> customer switched suppliers after extensive testing, and suddenly the
> replacement GDT version is ”not recommended” from the Grassy Knoll.
>
>
>
> Interesting why nothing was said by the “3rd party” about
> interoperability with other radios as it seems rather isolated to a few
> radio models that customer happily uses it with…
>
>
>
> [image: cid:[email protected]]
>
>
>
> Jaime Fink • Mimosa <http://www.mimosa.co/> • CTO & Co-Founder
>
>
>
> *From: *AF <[email protected]> on behalf of "[email protected]" <
> [email protected]>
> *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> *Date: *Friday, September 21, 2018 at 9:03 AM
> *To: *AFMUG <[email protected]>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450
>
>
>
> Well...
>
>
>
> Consider the source.  They have an ethernet problem.  Even with no surge
> suppressor they have frame check and CRC errors.  Most semiconductor based
> surge suppressors aggrivate that problem.
>
>
>
> Gas discharge tube products don’t.
>
> While I will agree that they are a bit slower, to say they do not protect
> the product is disingenuous at best and totally false at worst.
>
>
>
> But the users will be the true test.
>
>
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman
>
> *Sent:* Friday, September 21, 2018 8:23 AM
>
> *To:* AFMUG
>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450
>
>
>
>
> https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/resource/applications-alert-surge-suppressors/
>
>
>
> How does this apply to yours Chuck?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
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