Wow, so McCown really mops the floor with Cambium's product... 



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From: [email protected] 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2018 2:14:42 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450 




Finally got one of the new Cambium units in for testing. It is similar to my 
GigE-SS and CAT6-SS in most parameters. Insertion Loss, NEXT etc. But there is 
a major difference in Return Loss. 
Return Loss measures how much signal bounces back from the far end. On 100 Mbps 
Ethernet circuits it doesn’t matter because each pair is simplex. 
But with GigE circuits each pair is duplex and any reflected energy can combine 
with the desired signal coming from the far end and cause errors. 

Pairs Cambium MTC 
1/2 10.3(db) 30.2 
3/6 11.6 28.9 
4/5 10.5 26.3 
7/8 10.0 25.9 




From: Jaime Fink 
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 11:57 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450 



Can only guess at the motivations, but this is only a test they did in their 
controlled lab, we haven’t seen this as a problem with that ISP in the 
lightning season in the field reported to us, and we of course lab test at much 
higher kV levels than the ones they claim generally, the ISP did their own 
testing as well with specific radios. So as Chuck said, I’d consider the 
source. 

Jaime Fink • Mimosa • CTO & Co-Founder 


From: AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Josh Luthman 
<[email protected]> 
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> 
Date: Friday, September 21, 2018 at 10:49 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450 



But why go out of the way to do all this work if it doesn't cause problems? 
They're not making enough sales on their own surge suppressor, which I didn't 
even know exists... 








Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 1:37 PM, Jaime Fink < [email protected] > wrote: 




Agree Chuck, and similar anonymous 3 rd parties also confirm their largest 
customer switched suppliers after extensive testing, and suddenly the 
replacement GDT version is ”not recommended” from the Grassy Knoll. 

Interesting why nothing was said by the “3 rd party” about interoperability 
with other radios as it seems rather isolated to a few radio models that 
customer happily uses it with… 

cid:[email protected]

Jaime Fink • Mimosa • CTO & Co-Founder 


From: AF < [email protected] > on behalf of " [email protected] " < 
[email protected] > 
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < [email protected] > 
Date: Friday, September 21, 2018 at 9:03 AM 
To: AFMUG < [email protected] > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450 







Well... 



Consider the source. They have an ethernet problem. Even with no surge 
suppressor they have frame check and CRC errors. Most semiconductor based surge 
suppressors aggrivate that problem. 



Gas discharge tube products don’t. 

While I will agree that they are a bit slower, to say they do not protect the 
product is disingenuous at best and totally false at worst. 



But the users will be the true test. 






From: Josh Luthman 

Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 8:23 AM 

To: AFMUG 

Subject: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450 




https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/resource/applications-alert-surge-suppressors/ 



How does this apply to yours Chuck? 

Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


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