I would like to know more about the Miami regulation?
Chris Herrington, FCC Lic. # PG-11-19440 Cell 714-309-8714 [email protected] From: AF [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 9:20 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Windfarm in licensed path Is this in or near Miami? There’s a requirement anyone building something there make sure it won’t build into the path of a microwave. Otherwise I mean. You can’t just build into a utility line. Why is building into a microwave path any different. On Dec 21, 2018, at 23:45, Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote: So, I'm going to have to sign an NDA, so I assume that means I can't reach out publicly for advice anymore, never been under NDA on a serious matter before. Prior to signing, is this a matter we should grab the attorney to represent us or just to have review paperwork? So far it's very amicable, confirmed that our licensed link is toast in 7 months. I think I have a very viable solution for everyone (there is another parallel link affected that's someone else's that terminates near us on both sides) I've heard the best legal term (make whole) and a risky term (cost sharing) so..... On Thu, Dec 13, 2018, 9:55 PM Lewis Bergman <[email protected] wrote: I think you'll find the construction company to be flexible if you reach out to them early enough. You have to go directly to the company building the farm. On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 2:40 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: Yeah, there is usually an internal person or maybe an external consultant working those kinds of planning issues. You want to find out who that is and make contact with that person. Not the people they send to public meetings to deal with the anti windfarm elements of the community, who will likely be marketing types and lawyers. If they have signed leases with landowners and planned the routes for the power network, they have a certain amount of flexibility in placing the turbines. Moving one of them 100 feet left or right but still on the same piece of land where have a lease may not be that difficult at the paper stage. Finding a different parcel of land to lease or deleting the turbine entirely, unlikely. Some people will fight them no matter what and claim their livestock are falling over dead and their children are sick due to the turbines. Cropdusters will be unhappy. And if I had built my dream home on a little “farmette” to retire on, I wouldn’t want one of those behemoths 1400 feet away, flashing red all night, and sounding like a washing machine when I’m downwind of it. But there’s not much they can do about a lot of that. When there is something they can reasonably do to mollify the citizenry, like stop certain turbines at certain times of day because someone complained about “shadow flicker”, I have seen them do it. So trying not to block microwave links between towers is something they may be willing to do. In fact, even if you do nothing, they may hire someone to look at the FCC database and find any licensed paths that go through the proposed windfarm, and choose their sites accordingly. From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 12:50 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Windfarm in licensed path I know I did some consulting to map out the paths where there were licensed microwave links years ago. They do consider this in their placement of the turbines. I am not sure of their obligation to do so. This may have been a local zoning requirement more than anything. Thank You, Brian Webster 214 Eggleston Hill Rd. www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com From: AF [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 11:08 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Windfarm in licensed path The FCC license protects against RF interference, not trees or highrise buildings or wind turbines. And there’s nothing Commsearch can do. You are lucky that it’s an FCC licensed path, and I would absolutely approach them now in the planning phase. When the windfarm Mike references was built in our area, they voluntarily moved one of the turbines to get it out of the path of a licensed backhaul. They probably won’t do this for an unlicensed path or a subscriber link. Also the phase where they are most likely to make such an accommodation is during the planning and approval phase. Least impact on them at that point, and they are motivated to resolve community resistance to their project where possible. I don’t think they are required to accommodate you, so I wouldn’t go charging in guns blazing, be nice and hope they are nice back. The towers obviously are more of a problem than the blades, but the blades do affect the RF when they pass through the beam, especially if there are multiple turbines in the path. I figure a couple dB blip per turbine but it’s hard to predict scientifically. From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 9:43 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Windfarm in licensed path Are you wanting Commscope to go put some C4 on that turbine? :-p Ken, what did you do when they built that Shabonna\Lee windfarm? I know you had some links down there. ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> Image removed by sender. <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> Image removed by sender. <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> Image removed by sender. <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Image removed by sender. <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> Image removed by sender. <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> Image removed by sender. <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> Image removed by sender. <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> Image removed by sender. <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> Image removed by sender. _____ From: "Steve Jones" <[email protected]> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 9:39:26 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Windfarm in licensed path We have a windfarm going up that was , one of the turbines is dead in the middle of an 11ghz link path. Who do we reach out to for this. We have commsearch protection service, I reached out to them, but im not sure thats in the protection scope. Im leery of reaching out to the windfarm directly, as they may lawyer up before we get our recourse figured out. As I understand it they are in the impact study phase still, so i assume that means our window of opportunity closes when that is done. Any advice? -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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