Anyone worth a crap is not out looking for a job these days.

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> On May 30, 2019, at 10:51 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> A couple of thoughts:
> 
> Many of these type of people will be working on something interesting
> in their own time.    Maybe some probing questions about what they
> have done on their own.  Depending on what you're looking for, things
> like 'have you ever played with an arduino?  Raspberry Pi? etc?'
> might help.
> 
> Have you thought about what would have attracted you to a job listing?
> That might be a good starting point.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 6:28 AM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> When I was young I went exploring.  I'd ask my mom if I could go for a
>> bike ride.  I never really specified where, and just kept ranging
>> farther and farther from home.  I'd end up in creeks, culvert pipes,
>> climbing fences, walking through woods, construction sites, quarries,
>> and basically anywhere else I didn't get kicked out of.  I got there on
>> my bike so in terms of parental permission I put it all under the
>> category of "going for a bike ride".  I only got arrested once, but I
>> probably deserved it a few more times.
>> 
>> I also took things apart and used bits of wire and a battery to play
>> with the components.  At an early job they were impressed that I
>> correctly used the word "potentiometer" in a sentence.  I also plugged a
>> DC motor into a 120V AC outle --a valuable lesson there. I also melted a
>> NiCad battery on the carpet when I left it on the charger too long.
>> 
>> My hobbies included model trains and my RC car.  I could tell you the
>> difference between a parallel and series circuit when I was 10. I tagged
>> along with my brother when he went out shooting with his Ruger 10/22.  I
>> slept out in the woods for the fun of it, and sometimes didn't bring
>> anything but matches.  Played with fireworks, made my own fireworks with
>> homemade black powder and/or match heads.
>> 
>> My dad made me do drywall, set fence posts, change the belt on a
>> lawnmower, and so on.
>> 
>> Every success and every failure contributed to a set of skills that I
>> took for granted until I encountered people who didn't have them. Things
>> like spatial reasoning, basic electricity, use of basic hand tools, and
>> a general sense of time, distance, and direction.
>> 
>> So the question for AFMUG is how do you find out whether a job applicant
>> is the curious explorer who wants to know how everything works?  How do
>> I attract that applicant to begin with?  I may want specific skills too
>> like a juggler who can juggle, but I really want people who can figure
>> stuff out and won't be deterred by every little bump in the road.
>> 
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