We had a decade long bust in the housing market, and people in the building trades were out of work or taking alternative jobs. Not true anymore.
There is always the method of hiring veterans. Sometimes there are local organizations that hook up employers with young people returning from military service. They tend to be presentable, able to follow directions and work in teams. Their skills may be very specific to certain military tasks and equipment, and they often have trouble describing their training and experience on a resume without resorting to military jargon that civilians don't understand. But some of them probably know all about drill bits, maybe even microwave equipment and computers. A little extra effort finding these people might pay off. -----Original Message----- From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jay Weekley Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2019 8:20 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Assessing life skills Was he in the dilemma of trying to get a tech job without experience but couldn't experience without a job? I'm as interested in someone that knows a wood bit from a mortar bit as I am in someone that can perform a simple router setup. Jerry Head wrote: > Disagree. > We hired an installer last year who just turned 18. > He was one of three people (of 9 who answered the ad) who showed up. > We had a simple test of programming a XX-Link router. > He failed. > My network engineer said "Lets try him anyway". > We did hire him and he has worked out really well. > So there's that I guess. > > > On 5/31/2019 9:34 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >> Anyone worth a crap is not out looking for a job these days. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 30, 2019, at 10:51 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> A couple of thoughts: >>> >>> Many of these type of people will be working on something interesting >>> in their own time. Maybe some probing questions about what they >>> have done on their own. Depending on what you're looking for, >>> things like 'have you ever played with an arduino? Raspberry Pi? etc?' >>> might help. >>> >>> Have you thought about what would have attracted you to a job listing? >>> That might be a good starting point. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 6:28 AM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> When I was young I went exploring. I'd ask my mom if I could go >>>> for a bike ride. I never really specified where, and just kept >>>> ranging farther and farther from home. I'd end up in creeks, >>>> culvert pipes, climbing fences, walking through woods, construction >>>> sites, quarries, and basically anywhere else I didn't get kicked >>>> out of. I got there on my bike so in terms of parental permission >>>> I put it all under the category of "going for a bike ride". I only >>>> got arrested once, but I probably deserved it a few more times. >>>> >>>> I also took things apart and used bits of wire and a battery to >>>> play with the components. At an early job they were impressed that >>>> I correctly used the word "potentiometer" in a sentence. I also >>>> plugged a DC motor into a 120V AC outle --a valuable lesson there. >>>> I also melted a NiCad battery on the carpet when I left it on the >>>> charger too long. >>>> >>>> My hobbies included model trains and my RC car. I could tell you >>>> the difference between a parallel and series circuit when I was 10. >>>> I tagged along with my brother when he went out shooting with his >>>> Ruger 10/22. I slept out in the woods for the fun of it, and >>>> sometimes didn't bring anything but matches. Played with >>>> fireworks, made my own fireworks with homemade black powder and/or >>>> match heads. >>>> >>>> My dad made me do drywall, set fence posts, change the belt on a >>>> lawnmower, and so on. >>>> >>>> Every success and every failure contributed to a set of skills that >>>> I took for granted until I encountered people who didn't have them. >>>> Things >>>> like spatial reasoning, basic electricity, use of basic hand tools, >>>> and a general sense of time, distance, and direction. >>>> >>>> So the question for AFMUG is how do you find out whether a job >>>> applicant is the curious explorer who wants to know how everything >>>> works? >>>> How do >>>> I attract that applicant to begin with? I may want specific skills >>>> too like a juggler who can juggle, but I really want people who can >>>> figure stuff out and won't be deterred by every little bump in the >>>> road. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> - Forrest >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- *Jay Weekley* *Cyber Broadband * --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
