It's up on their website now. A winch, my life for a winch. But that
with 500 mile range for 60K and I could replace the power wagon with
it... Specially with and additional 6 inches of clearance and nothing
to block snow under the body, so it would slide on top easier. It
might just make a pretty good snow machine!
On 11/22/19 7:49 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
The range(s) were listed as 200-500 depending on battery pack. The
extra motors add power, but don't make a significant impact on mileage
(or as much as you might think). You can see this in the various
models S, X, and Y; more motors doesn't really impact range all that
much. I think this is because just because you have more power, it
still takes about the same amount of power to go X miles per hour.
The metric for efficiency is MPGe. The EPA has decreed that ~~33.5KWh
is approximately equal energy-wise to 1 gallon of gas. So, for
example, the latest firmware version of the Model 3 with a 60KWh
battery goes ~~ 250 miles. That nets out to ~~ 140 MPGe (250/(60/33.5)).
We don't have enough information for the cybertruck yet to do that
calculation (or do we?). ICE trucks (half tons anyway) are doing good
to get 20 MPG these days. The diesel variety can get into the high 20s
(26-28 zone).
I was surprised to see the towing capacity with a unibody. There would
have to be some serious reinforcement going on to attach a weight
distribution hitch with that kind of weight.
bp
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On 11/22/2019 7:33 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
To be consistent with my feelings on their semi truck, as long as the
performance, specifications, reliability, utility are as promised, I
care much less about how it appears.
That $40k price point is nice, though I'd want at least the $50k to
have AWD.
I've seen people say stuff like, "OMG, that too much money for a
truck." Clearly they have no idea what trucks cost. I haven't seen
what the electric ATV costs.
I also wonder what else changes between the tiers. Adding more motors
shouldn't add to the range of the vehicle, so what's happening with
the battery, weight, etc. Adding more batteries shouldn't make it
faster, so what's up with the extra motors?
I'm more willing to admit I don't need to pull a house with my daily
driver because I can always get something from the farm. I just want
it to be big enough to handle most things. Hell, even the 14k towing
would be enough for our Bobcat and trailer.
I wonder how trailers work with the EVs... how easy is it to add (or
get the option for) gooseneck, fifth wheel, etc.
I do like the hard, lockable tonneau cover. Maybe Rivian had it
available and I just forgot. Nice place to store a bunch of tools for
a work truck, though no place to add a ladder rack.
I was annoyed they didn't have battery specs, but I suppose that
could still be fuzzy. Maybe they don't know if they need 100 or 110
kw to meet their advertised performance numbers.
Weight would be nice to know as well.
I'm not surprised on the design. All else equal, I'd probably prefer
the Rivian, but let's see how things actually bare out. What's the
"mpg" compared to Rivian? I guess it'd be MPkWh?
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*From: *"Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]>
*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
*Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 9:25:31 AM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Cybertruck
I was expecting to see some comments from this crowd. Was everyone
suitably underwhelmed? Or running out to place your pre-orders?
I think I saw one comment that it looked like a cross between an El
Camino and a Pontiac Aztec. It certainly was not what I expected
when I heard Tesla was going to bring out an electric truck. It
sounds like the 3 motor version will indeed be fast, but how big a
market is there for a fast, expensive, ugly truck? Maybe more than
I realize.
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