Supposedly, their computer can manage the slippage on a per-wheel basis to get any traction that might be available instead of blind power. Supposedly.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 12:49:37 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck With the torque of electric motors, probably no snow tires in the world would be enough, maybe convert to tracks. From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 10:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck It's up on their website now. A winch, my life for a winch. But that with 500 mile range for 60K and I could replace the power wagon with it... Specially with and additional 6 inches of clearance and nothing to block snow under the body, so it would slide on top easier. It might just make a pretty good snow machine! On 11/22/19 7:49 AM, Bill Prince wrote: The range(s) were listed as 200-500 depending on battery pack. The extra motors add power, but don't make a significant impact on mileage (or as much as you might think). You can see this in the various models S, X, and Y; more motors doesn't really impact range all that much. I think this is because just because you have more power, it still takes about the same amount of power to go X miles per hour. The metric for efficiency is MPGe. The EPA has decreed that ~~33.5KWh is approximately equal energy-wise to 1 gallon of gas. So, for example, the latest firmware version of the Model 3 with a 60KWh battery goes ~~ 250 miles. That nets out to ~~ 140 MPGe (250/(60/33.5)). We don't have enough information for the cybertruck yet to do that calculation (or do we?). ICE trucks (half tons anyway) are doing good to get 20 MPG these days. The diesel variety can get into the high 20s (26-28 zone). I was surprised to see the towing capacity with a unibody. There would have to be some serious reinforcement going on to attach a weight distribution hitch with that kind of weight. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 11/22/2019 7:33 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: <blockquote> To be consistent with my feelings on their semi truck, as long as the performance, specifications, reliability, utility are as promised, I care much less about how it appears. That $40k price point is nice, though I'd want at least the $50k to have AWD. I've seen people say stuff like, "OMG, that too much money for a truck." Clearly they have no idea what trucks cost. I haven't seen what the electric ATV costs. I also wonder what else changes between the tiers. Adding more motors shouldn't add to the range of the vehicle, so what's happening with the battery, weight, etc. Adding more batteries shouldn't make it faster, so what's up with the extra motors? I'm more willing to admit I don't need to pull a house with my daily driver because I can always get something from the farm. I just want it to be big enough to handle most things. Hell, even the 14k towing would be enough for our Bobcat and trailer. I wonder how trailers work with the EVs... how easy is it to add (or get the option for) gooseneck, fifth wheel, etc. I do like the hard, lockable tonneau cover. Maybe Rivian had it available and I just forgot. Nice place to store a bunch of tools for a work truck, though no place to add a ladder rack. I was annoyed they didn't have battery specs, but I suppose that could still be fuzzy. Maybe they don't know if they need 100 or 110 kw to meet their advertised performance numbers. Weight would be nice to know as well. I'm not surprised on the design. All else equal, I'd probably prefer the Rivian, but let's see how things actually bare out. What's the "mpg" compared to Rivian? I guess it'd be MPkWh? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 9:25:31 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Cybertruck I was expecting to see some comments from this crowd. Was everyone suitably underwhelmed? Or running out to place your pre-orders? I think I saw one comment that it looked like a cross between an El Camino and a Pontiac Aztec. It certainly was not what I expected when I heard Tesla was going to bring out an electric truck. It sounds like the 3 motor version will indeed be fast, but how big a market is there for a fast, expensive, ugly truck? Maybe more than I realize. -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com </blockquote> -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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