What broke so bad in V19?

> On Dec 16, 2019, at 1:02 PM, Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Weve had one in play because they dont have any powercode BMUs anymore, we 
> outran the smaller ones capacity. It only did the queues and the redirect. It 
> was the testing on moving them out to sites that pushed this whole issue. We 
> are on V19 now, so the world should be gravy. The migration was pretty much a 
> disaster, more than pretty much, we will probably shed a few customers over 
> it, but thats partially on me. The last major migration, I built up a demo 
> server imported the DB did process testing on a lab network, all that, over 
> the course of like a month. This I pushed out about 16 hours after the 
> decision to migrate was made, bug tested on the fly and got bit. I was pretty 
> confident I was fired when I got in this morning, but I wasnt so we are 
> working through the few remaining bugs and letting bygones be bygones, maybe 
> the boss just doesnt have the heart to can me right before christmas, who 
> knows.
> 
> Out of curiosity, Josh, what are you doing with your tiks, are they site 
> routers? We currently have pretty vanilla setup on our mikrotiks with two 
> headend BMUs and NAT handled at each of our upstream edge routers. Each POP 
> has a LAN bridge defined for customer traffic with a DHCP relay to old BMUs 
> that handle the DHCP and the monitoring.  OSPF for site to site routing. A 
> default deny input policy with exceptions for certain things and an ACL. some 
> do have multiple LAN bridges if we have a stub site that doesnt have a router 
> at it backhauled in.
> 
> The only thing aside from moving Queues and whatnot that we want to add at 
> the sites is the NAT to eliminate the BGP limitations it presents when doing 
> it on the border routers. We dont even think we will do the DHCP on these, 
> will just stick to the relay.
> 
>> On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 9:29 AM Josh Luthman <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> I didn't even think you could use v18 with Mikrotik.  Definitely not 
>> recommended.  I've been on the latest latest with Mikrotik and it works well.
>> 
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 10:22 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> When I was a very young man, my uncle's power went out. This, of course 
>>> caused his sump pump to fail. As I was helping him lug out his destroyed 
>>> furniture and carpet from his beautiful finished basement, he would just 
>>> repeat, "if you have a guy down, you might as well kick him" ...ha. I 
>>> understand what uncle Moe meant. He was right.
>>> Anyhow, turns out v18 did have some fatal issues with mikrotik. Went to v19 
>>> last night, good times. I would venture a guess that new customers could 
>>> onboard gracefully, lots of better goodness in 19.... new customers.
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2019, 10:43 AM Josh Luthman <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Same as Kurt.  Probes work wonderfully.  Customer radios, tower APs, power 
>>>> monitors, all of it.
>>>> 
>>>> I talked to Ubnt about that at Vegas and a couple times since then.  Tony 
>>>> responds to me and I feel like the devs ignore him just as much as us.
>>>> 
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 9:51 AM Kurt Fankhauser 
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> probes been working fine for us in Powercode, the only probe problem i 
>>>>> have is AF5XHD's oid's are screwed up right now, but thats not a 
>>>>> Powercode problem.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 7:38 AM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> I wish billing\oss systems would stop trying to be everything to 
>>>>>> everybody.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The Brothers WISP
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: "Steve Jones" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 3:34:13 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] powercode and mikrotik BMUs
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Powercode has become quite a joke. Half our probes havent worked for 
>>>>>> months and they dont even respond to the ticket. We had to spin up 
>>>>>> Librenms just to get monitoring data
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Trying to integrate mikrotik BMUs and having issues, they have zero 
>>>>>> legitimate documentation and when you ask whats supposed to be happening 
>>>>>> they tell you to seek out a consultant and that the info may be 
>>>>>> proprietary.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thats all bad enough, but i figure ill do some packet sniffing to find 
>>>>>> out what the communication is between the billing server and the 
>>>>>> mikrotik, maybe find out I misconfigured something, come to find out the 
>>>>>> nitwits are sending out the authentication in PLAIN TEXT. They dont even 
>>>>>> have a disclaimer when you add one of these. but christ, if youre 
>>>>>> operating an off network BMU, your infrastructure credentials are 
>>>>>> getting tossed into the ether like its nothing.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I wish simon hadnt left
>>>>>> 
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