Weve had one in play because they dont have any powercode BMUs anymore, we
outran the smaller ones capacity. It only did the queues and the redirect.
It was the testing on moving them out to sites that pushed this whole
issue. We are on V19 now, so the world should be gravy. The migration was
pretty much a disaster, more than pretty much, we will probably shed a few
customers over it, but thats partially on me. The last major migration, I
built up a demo server imported the DB did process testing on a lab
network, all that, over the course of like a month. This I pushed out about
16 hours after the decision to migrate was made, bug tested on the fly and
got bit. I was pretty confident I was fired when I got in this morning, but
I wasnt so we are working through the few remaining bugs and letting
bygones be bygones, maybe the boss just doesnt have the heart to can me
right before christmas, who knows.

Out of curiosity, Josh, what are you doing with your tiks, are they site
routers? We currently have pretty vanilla setup on our mikrotiks with two
headend BMUs and NAT handled at each of our upstream edge routers. Each POP
has a LAN bridge defined for customer traffic with a DHCP relay to old BMUs
that handle the DHCP and the monitoring.  OSPF for site to site routing. A
default deny input policy with exceptions for certain things and an ACL.
some do have multiple LAN bridges if we have a stub site that doesnt have a
router at it backhauled in.

The only thing aside from moving Queues and whatnot that we want to add at
the sites is the NAT to eliminate the BGP limitations it presents when
doing it on the border routers. We dont even think we will do the DHCP on
these, will just stick to the relay.

On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 9:29 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> I didn't even think you could use v18 with Mikrotik.  Definitely not
> recommended.  I've been on the latest latest with Mikrotik and it works
> well.
>
> Josh Luthman
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>
> On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 10:22 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> When I was a very young man, my uncle's power went out. This, of course
>> caused his sump pump to fail. As I was helping him lug out his destroyed
>> furniture and carpet from his beautiful finished basement, he would just
>> repeat, "if you have a guy down, you might as well kick him" ...ha. I
>> understand what uncle Moe meant. He was right.
>> Anyhow, turns out v18 did have some fatal issues with mikrotik. Went to
>> v19 last night, good times. I would venture a guess that new customers
>> could onboard gracefully, lots of better goodness in 19.... new customers.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2019, 10:43 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Same as Kurt.  Probes work wonderfully.  Customer radios, tower APs,
>>> power monitors, all of it.
>>>
>>> I talked to Ubnt about that at Vegas and a couple times since then.
>>> Tony responds to me and I feel like the devs ignore him just as much as us.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 9:51 AM Kurt Fankhauser <
>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> probes been working fine for us in Powercode, the only probe problem i
>>>> have is AF5XHD's oid's are screwed up right now, but thats not a Powercode
>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 7:38 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I wish billing\oss systems would stop trying to be everything to
>>>>> everybody.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>>>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, December 12, 2019 3:34:13 PM
>>>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] powercode and mikrotik BMUs
>>>>>
>>>>> Powercode has become quite a joke. Half our probes havent worked for
>>>>> months and they dont even respond to the ticket. We had to spin up 
>>>>> Librenms
>>>>> just to get monitoring data
>>>>>
>>>>> Trying to integrate mikrotik BMUs and having issues, they have zero
>>>>> legitimate documentation and when you ask whats supposed to be
>>>>> happening they tell you to seek out a consultant and that the info may be
>>>>> proprietary.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thats all bad enough, but i figure ill do some packet sniffing to find
>>>>> out what the communication is between the billing server and the mikrotik,
>>>>> maybe find out I misconfigured something, come to find out the nitwits are
>>>>> sending out the authentication in PLAIN TEXT. They dont even have a
>>>>> disclaimer when you add one of these. but christ, if youre operating an 
>>>>> off
>>>>> network BMU, your infrastructure credentials are getting tossed into the
>>>>> ether like its nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wish simon hadnt left
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