Won it in a landslide too.

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> On Nov 10, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> No...Nixon won his second term...I was there...
> He didn't finish it..
> Not like El One Term..
> 
>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 2:49 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:
>> and I think Nixon was up for reelection. Obama was a lame duck.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> On 11/10/2020 1:39 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>> yeah, i guess its not new, at least Obama was better looking
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 3:26 PM Lewis Bergman <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Uhhh Nixon
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 3:12 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> it used to be sitting presidents didnt spy on incoming presidents, or at 
>>>>> least get caught in the act. 
>>>>> I dont think there will be much of  a pulpit left for anyone. The left 
>>>>> had already "unfriended anyone who disagreed with them and isolated 
>>>>> themselves, then attacked any public space where any dissent would sit. 
>>>>> so the "racists" (a term used by morons with no depth) started moving 
>>>>> elsewhere with their time and money.
>>>>> Nobody really listens to anything outside what they want to hear, so 
>>>>> pulpits arent very relevant today. but kids are remote now, less 
>>>>> indoctrination, so theyll start being "racists" soon too. You lose a ton 
>>>>> of control when you lose a year of indoctrination.
>>>>> It is kind of fun watching whats going on at fox lately. Things started 
>>>>> turning when that bigot smith left, I didnt care for his hate, but I 
>>>>> liked 90 percent of his reporting. but once he left it was like they 
>>>>> tried to fill the agenda void internally and it turned into a pundit 
>>>>> brawl. Hannity went the way of Glenn beck, its a matter of time til hes 
>>>>> wearing kleenex box shoes and talking to cats, Tucker went from being a 
>>>>> fun prick to just being a prick, levin doesnt even hide his hatred of 
>>>>> jews anymore, Its like they decided they wanted to be jokes like lemon, 
>>>>> cuomo, and cooper, but multiplied to below the levels of msnbc, ratings 
>>>>> reflective.
>>>>> 
>>>>> this whole thing is literally hilarious, watching the mirror image of 
>>>>> 2016 happen. the arrogant hypocrisy is great. I have to admit, I havent 
>>>>> been keeping up on most of it, since i watched it all in the 2016 season. 
>>>>> But I do enjoy the highlight reels. The best part of it is watching the 
>>>>> "winners"  still melting down, as expected. I am kinda disapponted that 
>>>>> the "losing" team isnt our burning cities like they 2016 losers did, but 
>>>>> I guess nobody expected anything different in that regard, turds dont 
>>>>> polish.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 2:34 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Used to be that former presidents never criticized sitting presidents. 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> That went out the window with Obama/Trump.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Now, it will be interesting to see if anyone will give Trump a pulpit 
>>>>>> from which to speak.  Will he become a fox news feature?  Perhaps at 
>>>>>> Miss America he will pontificate.  I am sure he will not be able to 
>>>>>> resist seeking publicity. 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> From: Ken Hohhof
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2020 1:26 PM
>>>>>> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Hmmm, I forgot he is DJ Trump.  Maybe his next career can be as a 
>>>>>> rapper, he already has the name.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2020 2:08 PM
>>>>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> www.loser.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 8:03 AM Steve Jones <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is why the left cant meme. The lack of detail. Memelords would 
>>>>>> never have allowed that tie to make it through QC. 1/10
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 7:31 AM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yep..
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 9:38 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The memes will be epic. The memelords havent even started shitposting, 
>>>>>> which is odd.  This is a 2 of 10 gem. The covid death memes from the 
>>>>>> street "celebrations" are going to be particularly ruthless.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 10:26 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> God this is more entertaining than 2016
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 10:12 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Barr is a Trump puppet.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/1542846845827136/posts/3249813925130411/?sfnsn=mo
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 7:07 PM Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The only thing just getting started is the next level of FUD from the DUD
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 11/9/20 5:51 PM, Chuck Macenski wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From Wikipedia: The Gateway Pundit is an American far-right[9] news and 
>>>>>> opinion website. The website is known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, 
>>>>>> and conspiracy theories.[17]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If someone has credible evidence that would overturn the election, it 
>>>>>> should absolutely be brought before the courts. At the moment, all of 
>>>>>> the evidence seems to point to a fair election where Donald Trump lost 
>>>>>> by over 4,000,000 votes.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 7:34 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bullshit ..pure Bullshit
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 5:39 PM justsumname <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> this thing is just getting started, gents.   It's only Monday.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-ag-barr-authorizes-federal-prosecutors-pursue-substantial-allegations-voting-irregularities-2020-election-certified/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> RealClearPolitics un-calls Pennsylvania for Biden.   The state is grey 
>>>>>> on their map, now.   Was Blue yesterday.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I do not understand the vitriol against Mr Trump.   He's been an 
>>>>>> excellent President for all Americans.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> No I didn't ask... I can read everyone's comments, and I have.   For 
>>>>>> years.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 6:16 PM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I wish they could invent a secure method to vote online.  But it has to 
>>>>>> be resistant to buying and selling votes.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Steve Jones <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's pretty straight forward to verify integrity of the vote. We have 
>>>>>> already dont it with covid test results. We are blind ballot meaning no 
>>>>>> one can see who you voted for. Covid result eliminated anyone's ability 
>>>>>> to claim their vote was stolen or manipulated since you can check your 
>>>>>> results with your code. You can do the same without recording a name.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If there is any question of validity in a count, it can be verified, 
>>>>>> fairly quickly.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Covid built us a system to have a secure vote. Inadvertant side effects 
>>>>>> are the best side effects.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You register, you are assigned your key. Your registration can be 
>>>>>> verified legitimate. You can even vote online. The tracing 
>>>>>> infrastructure can be used to canvass a contested district for 
>>>>>> verification of vote accuracy.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is the last election where fraud can be claimed... inadvertant, as 
>>>>>> is most of the left's mistakes
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020, 12:20 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The advantage to that is that the records will probably last a long 
>>>>>> time. OTOH, storage might become an issue.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> bp
>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>> On 11/9/2020 10:16 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In our county, we have to quarry a stone tablet, cart it down to the 
>>>>>> office, make an X with a tar crayon, and be able to lift on to the 
>>>>>> ballet cart to have the vote count.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 10:10 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Our county typically uses touchscreen machines for in-person voting, 
>>>>>> both early and day-of.  (A paper tape record is also printed out and can 
>>>>>> be verified by the voter)  Obviously these are very quick to process.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Early voting sites were open for 15 days prior to the election.  In 
>>>>>> addition, there was one early voting site open 40 days prior to the 
>>>>>> election, but it used paper ballots.  Basically you filled out the same 
>>>>>> form as a mail-in ballot, sealed it, and dropped it in a box.  That’s 
>>>>>> how I voted and I was disappointed that was the process, I thought they 
>>>>>> would scan them through a “tabulator” as the last step, just like back 
>>>>>> when we used paper ballots for day-of voting.  I expected as the last 
>>>>>> step before leaving I would feed the paper ballot into a scanner.  
>>>>>> Instead I sealed it in an envelope and dropped it in a box.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All the paper ballots including early in-person and mail-in were 
>>>>>> required to sit in the locked boxes until something like 7am on election 
>>>>>> day before they could start processing them.  This was apparently also 
>>>>>> the case in many battleground states.  They weren’t even allowed to open 
>>>>>> the envelopes, uncrease the forms, check signatures, nothing.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Prince
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 9, 2020 9:52 AM
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In our county (and I have no idea if this is the norm in the rest of the 
>>>>>> state), they count them as they come in, but hold the results in a 
>>>>>> secure area until the close of the in-person polls. Ballots that are 
>>>>>> postmarked (if they were mailed) up until the day of the election will 
>>>>>> be accepted for a certain amount of time, but I don't know how long that 
>>>>>> is.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We also have an online ballot tracking system. After we dropped our 
>>>>>> ballots off, we could go to a ballot status web site that told us (1) if 
>>>>>> the ballot had been received, and (2) if it had been accepted. It took 
>>>>>> 48 hours for our ballots to show up in that system. I presume if our 
>>>>>> ballots had not been accepted, there is some sort of mechanism to go fix 
>>>>>> that, but I've never had to use it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> bp
>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>> On 11/9/2020 7:25 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, some states are doing exactly that. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: Adam Moffett
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 9, 2020 8:09 AM
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Scan them as they go, but don't publish the ongoing count. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 11/8/2020 4:45 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think vote by mail and scan them as they arrive is the way to go.  
>>>>>> That way when the polls close you have an immediate count. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: Bill Prince
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2020 2:38 PM
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The whole punch card voting "system"  was doomed from the beginning. I 
>>>>>> remember using it when I lived in Santa Clara County  30 years ago or 
>>>>>> so. Even when you punched out a hole properly, the chads would sometime 
>>>>>> stick or hang on a corner.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For quite some time now, we've been using the paper ballots where you 
>>>>>> fill in the square or the circle.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've also been registered as a permanent absentee for over a decade. 
>>>>>> When I voted (almost a month ago now), we filled out our ballots at the 
>>>>>> kitchen counter, and took them to a drop box the next day when we were 
>>>>>> running errands in town. The actual act of "voting" (if you want to call 
>>>>>> it that) took less than 1 minute as we just dropped the ballots off at 
>>>>>> one of dozens of drop boxes all over the county.Our county has (IIRC) 39 
>>>>>> drop boxes for a population of ~~ 750,000, or about 1 drop box for every 
>>>>>> 20,000 people.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Pennsylvania still hasn't started counting the late arrival absentee 
>>>>>> ballots. All of the ones they've counted so far arrived before November 
>>>>>> 3, but for reasons I don't understand were not allowed to be counted 
>>>>>> until after the day-of voting. From the things I've read, there are only 
>>>>>> about 85,000 of them, and they are unlikely to do anything but extend 
>>>>>> Biden's cushion.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I (for one) would be in favor of uniform voting/counting standards. 
>>>>>> Perhaps it would be a violation of state's rights, but on the other 
>>>>>> hand, there would be a lot less confusion when the time for voting comes 
>>>>>> around.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> bp
>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>> On 11/8/2020 11:08 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Stop the vote in Pennsylvania but keep counting in Arizona.  It’s a 
>>>>>> Maxwell’s Demon approach.  Open the door when it helps me, close the 
>>>>>> door when it helps the other guy.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That’s probably why the Supremes stopped the recounts in Bush v Gore, 
>>>>>> the Gore camp wanted to keep looking for errors but only in the counties 
>>>>>> where they thought it would help them.  But also the votes had already 
>>>>>> been counted (and recounted).  And there was the original Florida Man, 
>>>>>> some guy named Hanging Chad?  And the phone call and the retraction.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Democrats to this day take it as gospel that Gore was robbed.  That does 
>>>>>> not bode well for half the country moving on from this election.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: AF mailto:[email protected] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2020 12:02 PM
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In Michigan we're demanding a recount. In Wisconsin we're demanding a 
>>>>>> decount. In Georgia it's opposites day.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LmFVEi5Jd0
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> bp
>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>> On 11/7/2020 8:27 PM, justsumname wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The declaration that Biden has won is premature.   This thing hasn't 
>>>>>> really gotten started yet.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Judges don't hold court on the weekends.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 6:40 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes good movie. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> More akin to today is Seven Days in May...March, Douglas, Lancaster...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 7, 2020, 4:22 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The Founding Fathers didn’t account for the rise of political parties, 
>>>>>> which came soon enough.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College#Original_plan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Somehow I’m reminded of the movie The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance.  Set 
>>>>>> in the fading days of the old west with territories becoming states and 
>>>>>> deciding who to elect as their representatives.  Should it be Jimmy 
>>>>>> Stewart the righteous lawyer, or Lee Marvin the outlaw gang leader?  The 
>>>>>> old fashioned idea that you sent the brightest and best educated person 
>>>>>> to Washington to represent you.  Hah!  Politicians are not held in great 
>>>>>> esteem today, and we would probably vote for Liberty Valance.  I assume 
>>>>>> everyone has seen the movie.  It’s an old John Ford western, in fact he 
>>>>>> shot it in B&W, but it’s a must see.  Look at the cast – Jimmy Stewart, 
>>>>>> John Wayne, Lee Marvin, Vera Miles, Andy Devine, Edmond O’Brien, John 
>>>>>> Caradine, Lee Van Cleef.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Prince
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2020 4:46 PM
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The three-fifths compromise was enacted long before California existed.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-fifths_Compromise
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> bp
>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>> On 11/7/2020 12:54 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Uhhhh. No. The EC was created so that California has the same voice 
>>>>>> power as Rhode Island.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 7, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Bill Prince mailto:[email protected] wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Could have been over on Tuesday if we didn't have the silly Electoral 
>>>>>> College shenanigans; which actually evolved from the crazy slave is 3/5 
>>>>>> of a person nonsense. Here we are ~~ 250 years later and we're still 
>>>>>> dealing with decisions we made about slaves.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> bp
>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>> On 11/7/2020 11:15 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We have spoken.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Righteous Indignation
>>>>>> 
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