By my need exceeds my ability to produce samiches (sorry for identiyism) and cambium is a monolithic evil corporation and should be putting sammiches on everyone's plate
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020, 4:58 PM James Howard <[email protected]> wrote: > It’s samiches…. And there’s still no more free lunch. We’re going to > make sure that every American pays their fair share > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of * Steve Jones > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 8, 2020 4:03 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X > > > > Is this the same virtual product? Or if we switch to x do we have to > migrate to a new on premise or new cloud server? And if the sunscriprionnis > cancelled? > > Or is it just turn on and turn off inside of the software? > > > > And sandwiches, I was told there would be sandwiches > > > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020, 3:47 PM John Seaman via AF <[email protected]> wrote: > > It’s not really two different products. Think of it as a Freemium model. > You can create a free account in cnMaestro cloud anytime, and start using > it. Alternatively you can also download the on-prem version and start > using it (also free). > > > > If you want the advanced features, then you need a subscription. > > > > As a wisp, you get all the essential functionality for free, with the > basic version. These essential functions include the following (some of > these are Wi-Fi related): > > · Device onboarding > > · Monitoring > > · Configuring > > · Notifications – alarms & events > > · Basic captive portal > > · Dashboard > > · Device inventory > > · Network topology > > · SW updates > > · Maps > > · Wireless & wired client view > > · Floor plan > > · Moving APs between sites > > · Remote packet capture/debug, WiFi Analyzer, NW > > · Connectivity > > · Link test > > · Performance KPIs > > · RF Quality > > · Satellite view > > · Email notification > > > > The free features are pretty much everything you need unless you want to > use the API functionality and a couple others. For wisps, cnMaestro X > provides the following “paid” features that will be of interest to some: > APIs, Reports, audit logs. Most of the other X features are more related > to enterprise Wi-Fi like advanced captive portals, MSP (multi tenancy), and > others. And, you also get premium tech support (24x7, quick escalation) > with a subscription to X. > > > > All of these X features have been identified within cnMaestro with a “Pro” > flag for the last few years. It has been no secret that Cambium has always > been planning to eventually start charging for the Pro features. That time > has finally come, although instead of naming it cnMaestro Pro, it’s named > cnMaestro X. > > > > Matt feel free to give me a call to discuss. > > > > John > > 858-335-4384 > > > > *From:* Matt Hoppes <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 8, 2020 1:01 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Cc:* John Seaman <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X > > > > I am still really confused as is my distributor. > > > > Are these two different products or is the X just the name for the > management software that has a pay for future model? > > > > Is there anything we are losing that we currently have today if we don’t > start paying for this product that I know nothing about other than through > this mailing list? > > > > On Dec 8, 2020, at 3:54 PM, John Seaman via AF <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Assuming the powercode integration is handled through API, yes – that > requires X. Also correct on payment gateways. It’s currently flagged as a > “Pro” feature, so that means you’ll need an X subscription to use the > feature going forward. > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 8, 2020 12:33 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X > > > > Will those with powercode integration on on premise break then? > > > > And no more payment gateways on captive portal? > > > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020, 2:26 PM John Seaman via AF <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yes, standard cnMaestro is still free for SM and AP. Here’s the complete > list of what you get with the free version (the first column) vs. > cnMaestro X. > https://cdn.cambiumnetworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/cnMaestro-X-Features-Pricing-Aug-2020-final.pdf > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.cambiumnetworks.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2020%2F08%2FcnMaestro-X-Features-Pricing-Aug-2020-final.pdf&data=04%7C01%7Cjohn.seaman%40cambiumnetworks.com%7C0aa8184feb0341e3f7c508d89bbc6bd9%7C0e263e36340946228ac818d993e76eb6%7C0%7C0%7C637430580860419420%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=3OSKp6dPN8CyCCyo%2FogwqX6qEG8B%2BAtbTawPQfdV7fE%3D&reserved=0> > > > > cnMaestro X has all the same features as the free version but it also has > additional features not available in the free version. > > > > > > *From:* Matt Hoppes <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 8, 2020 10:54 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Cc:* John Seaman <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X > > > > But this is only if using X correct? Standard maestro will continue to be > free for SM and AP? > > > > I’m confused. What does this X provide that standard doesn’t and why are > free features in standard now pay in X? > > > > On Dec 8, 2020, at 1:44 PM, John Seaman via AF <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > That’s correct. FWB is fixed wireless broadband. So for wisps there are > two pricing components: SMs (referred to as tier 1) & APs/PTP (referred to > tier 2). SMs are less expensive than the APs. For example, for the three > year subscription the SM MSRP is $16 (or $5.33 per year) and APs are $60 > ($20 per year). As for PTP, this includes the sub 6 GHz backhauls like the > PTP 670 and 550 (cnMaestro does not yet support PTP 820). Pricing for > enterprise Wi-Fi/enterprise gear follows the third schedule, referred to as > Tier 3. > > > > Again, keep in mind that an X subscription also comes along with Cambium > Care Pro which is a 24/7 enhanced tech support service. Standard tech > support (8x5) is still free. > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 8, 2020 6:34 AM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X > > > > FWB could be Fixed Wireless Broadband? > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 8, 2020 7:23 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: cnmaestro X > > > > If your friend with benefits wants money then they're a prostitute. > > On 12/8/2020 3:21 AM, Ryan Ray wrote: > > also what's a FWB? I keep reading it as friends with benefits so you get > to be a friend with benefits if you pay the fee. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 12:19 AM Ryan Ray <[email protected]> wrote: > > If I'm reading it right we use PTP, AP, soon to be 60GHz ptmp when it > arrives, so we'll be paying $90 per device? for 5 year? but an AP may not > last that long but we still have to keep track of it. > > > > It seems confusing. Maybe just because I don't understand it. > > > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 12:17 AM Ryan Ray <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'm a little confused on pricing tiers. Can you explain these in more > detail John > > > > <image002.png> > > > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 6:17 PM Josh Baird <[email protected]> wrote: > > I believe "config push" will still be a free feature. At least this is > what John alluded to earlier - and I don't see it listed as a "PRO" feature > when I login. > > > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 9:04 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Id like to know the pricing on long term data and multi tenant. I was > reading the manual on multitenant and so excited then went to do it and was > like damn, kick me in the balls. we are cloud > > > > I cant get SAS to set up right now, but if you do CBRS its more than > config pushes (also not free) > > > > Does on prem let you do long term data? > > > > CnMaestro is like Linkplanner, the product is too good to be completely > free, there has to be some revenue for support and new feature engagement. > Its along the lines of when Unimus was way to cheap to be sustainable > > > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 5:23 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote: > > I thought it was clear from the beginning that there would be separate > free and paid versions. > > > > On 12/7/2020 6:20 PM, John Seaman via AF wrote: > > No, cnMaestro is definitely not EOL. Basic (free) cnMaestro and X are > both here to stay. > > You can download the feature list here. > > https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/cnmaestro-x/ > <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cambiumnetworks.com%2Fcnmaestro-x%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cjohn.seaman%40cambiumnetworks.com%7C0aa8184feb0341e3f7c508d89bbc6bd9%7C0e263e36340946228ac818d993e76eb6%7C0%7C0%7C637430580860429418%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=DSn9mG6JJHkGvRQGPpUoQBpM6m0LMrytg1o%2FadO5dZU%3D&reserved=0> > > It’s notable that X also comes with 24x7 Cambium Care Pro as a value add. > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> <[email protected]> *On Behalf > Of *Matt Hoppes > *Sent:* Monday, December 7, 2020 3:16 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > *Subject:* [ External ] Re: [AFMUG] cnmaestro X > > > > So does this mean the current cnMaestro will be EOL? > > > > I can’t find a list of pay vs free features for X. > > > > On Dec 7, 2020, at 5:59 PM, Steve D <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Near as I can tell, for us, it's going to be something we only use for > pushing mass-config changes and firmware. I might even pull back support > access if we really do lose audit logs. > > > > I'll miss the reports it generated. (At least, whenever our on-prem > version is deemed at the point we *have* to upgrade it...) > > > > Since we always kind of knew it might happen (hoped not) we never put all > our eggs into the basket, so to speak. I think it'll still be a useful > tool, just less so going forward. > > > > -Steve D > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 2:30 PM Sam Lambie <[email protected]> wrote: > > Now that Cambium has me for +2000 subs on cnmaestro, what am I going to > lose if I don't go to X? > > > > What do we gain if we do migrate and how much a month/per sub? > > hank you for being a part of the cnMaestro beta program and your feedback > on the Pro features. 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