Build a bunker.  Put a ballroom over it as a disguise.

 

Or self-deport proactively.  That’s actually their plan.  They don’t want to 
MAKE you leave, they want to make you WANT to leave.

 

I am puzzled by the natalists who also want mass deportation.  Once they ship 
out the undesirable people, will they be surprised the remaining women don’t 
want to stay home and make lots of babies to boost the population of 
desirables?  So we have enough to ship to Mars, of course.  Maybe we’ll start 
deporting illegal immigrants and homeless people to Mars?  Like wasn’t 
Australia originally kind of a penal colony?  Yes, AI Overview says they needed 
a new place to send their convicts after the American Revolution closed off 
sending them to the American colonies.

 

From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2025 6:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] now we're blowing up boats in the Pacific

 

Which just about shuts down my escape plan for when the gestaICEpo comes 
marching into our neighborhood and starts sweeping up anyone who ever 
registered as democrats.   Sailboats headed for NZ blowing up left and right...

On 10/23/25 3:37 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:

It’s not the US I’m worried about.  It’s all the other ones that decide that 
blowing up boats is a legitimate thing to do in international waters.   

Kind of hard to tell China to quit sinking Philippine boats when the US thinks 
it’s fine.  

 

Or Cuba, Brazil, Argentina, Venezuela, etc.   

 

Mark





On Oct 23, 2025, at 3:05 PM, Steve Jones  <mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]> wrote:

 

probably dont traffic cocaine on your boat and you will dramatically reduce 
that risk

 

On Thu, Oct 23, 2025 at 7:58 AM Mark Radabaugh <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Someday I would really like to be able to sail around the Caribbean and South 
America without having to worry about being randomly blown out of the water for 
no reason at all.   “Well, the US said it was OK to kill people in 
international waters”. 

 

Mark





On Oct 23, 2025, at 1:31 AM, Jason McKemie <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

 

It seems very telling that when they blew up a boat and people survived, they 
sent them back to their home country vs prosecuting them. You can't introduce 
that testimony into the public record.

 

On Wed, Oct 22, 2025, 11:44 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Replying to myself, which is perhaps a sign I should be in therapy, but I just 
realized one reason why the Coast Guard is underappreciated or at least unknown 
compared to Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines.  They are part of DHS not DOD.

 

But now that DOD is calling itself the Department of War, maybe DHS is just 
fine.  Although one is Hegseth and the other is Noem, so flip a coin.

 

Coast Guard is also much smaller, has a smaller budget, and a much smaller PR 
budget.  No money to toot their own horn.

 

From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf 
Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2025 10:50 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] now we're blowing up boats in the Pacific

 

Yeah, but if it’s on the ocean, I’d prefer to see a Hawaii Five 0 style chase.  
With McGarrett in a speedboat, and at the end he says “book ‘em, Danno”.

 

Besides, I think the Coasties are an underappreciated branch of the US military.

 

From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2025 8:31 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] now we're blowing up boats in the Pacific

 

I prefer to see cartels bombed. When they started moving the fent, they chose 
bombs. A little nose candy here and there, some dope, a little crystal, even 
some heroin was manageable. But these ducks decided to move shit that one 
mistake kills. Fuckbag dealers are putting it it club drugs and on vicodins.  
Kids don't have a chance to make a mistake.

 

Bomb the shit out of them. Sink their boats, cut their life jackets, chum the 
waters, I don't care as long as they die. They don't want to give our kids a 
second chance, their adults deserve as terrible a death as possible. Idgaf 
about human rights, they don't, and I have no interest in the high road.

 

On Wed, Oct 22, 2025, 6:45 PM Dev <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Turns out drug dealers sometimes get shot, who knew? Maybe they were delivering 
critical supplies to orphanages, because speedboats with three engines mean 
urgent care is being delivered expeditiously?

 

On Oct 22, 2025, at 3:03 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

 

Article on the latest generation of US Coast Guard “Over The Horizon” boats.

https://www.workboat.com/shipbuilding/test-driving-the-coast-guard-s-new-over-the-horizon-cutter-boat

 

Generally deployed from a ramp on the back of a larger cutter along with 
helicopters.  These things vaguely remind me of the WWII PT boats.

 

I would not want to try and outrun the Coast Guard.

 

From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf 
Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2025 4:24 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] now we're blowing up boats in the Pacific

 

Yes, and that's the primary argument against this practice.  If we have solid 
intel that they're carrying drugs, and we know where they are, then as soon as 
they enter our territorial waters we can board the boat and arrest them.  The 
Coast Guard doesn't need a warrant or even a specific reason to board a boat.  
Some of those boats are faster than Cutters, but I don't have solid info on how 
often they actually escape when they're already being tracked.  It's hard to 
imagine they really get away often because the Coast Guard also has 
helicopters, and they're allowed to continue a pursuit into international 
waters (and onto land) as long as the pursuit started in US waters.

 

Regardless of how often they really get away, it's not normal to blow up 
someone's boat as a law enforcement action.  We also don't execute drug 
traffickers, and even when the state executes someone there's a trial first.  

 

but..... 

*       post-911 we treat foreign terrorist organizations as enemy combatants

*       the executive branch gets to decide who counts as an FTO.  The sec of 
state, sec of treasury, and attorney general all have to agree, but they also 
all have the same boss.

*       Nobody can really stop the executive branch from declaring an FTO. 

*       Congress could pass a bill to override someone's listing as an FTO, but 
to date they've never done it.  

*       The courts could overturn an FTO listing, but for a lot of reasons it's 
almost impossible. 

 

 

So effectively the President and/or their cabinet has a completely legal 
pathway to authorize military force against just about anyone, and there's very 
little anyone can do about it.  It's not that I have sympathy for drug 
smugglers, it's that all we can do is take someone's word for it that it was a 
drug smuggler.  If anyone is totally comfortable with that then I'm curious 
what your rationale is.

 

 

  _____  

From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > on behalf 
of Ken Hohhof <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2025 3:00 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> >
Subject: [AFMUG] now we're blowing up boats in the Pacific 

 

 <https://x.com/SecWar/status/1981049943306752361> 
https://x.com/SecWar/status/1981049943306752361

 

I thought the Coast Guard was able to intercept boats and board them, arrest 
people and confiscate cargo.  I seem to remember they specifically acquired 
high speed boats that were a match for anything a drug runner might have.

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