Meh. We can't skin pedophiles because Chyna might skin people with downes syndrome i guess.
On Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 5:38 PM Mark Radabaugh <[email protected]> wrote: > It’s not the US I’m worried about. It’s all the other ones that decide > that blowing up boats is a legitimate thing to do in international waters. > > Kind of hard to tell China to quit sinking Philippine boats when the US > thinks it’s fine. > > Or Cuba, Brazil, Argentina, Venezuela, etc. > > Mark > > On Oct 23, 2025, at 3:05 PM, Steve Jones <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > probably dont traffic cocaine on your boat and you will dramatically > reduce that risk > > On Thu, Oct 23, 2025 at 7:58 AM Mark Radabaugh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Someday I would really like to be able to sail around the Caribbean and >> South America without having to worry about being randomly blown out of the >> water for no reason at all. “Well, the US said it was OK to kill people >> in international waters”. >> >> Mark >> >> On Oct 23, 2025, at 1:31 AM, Jason McKemie < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> It seems very telling that when they blew up a boat and people survived, >> they sent them back to their home country vs prosecuting them. You can't >> introduce that testimony into the public record. >> >> On Wed, Oct 22, 2025, 11:44 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Replying to myself, which is perhaps a sign I should be in therapy, but >>> I just realized one reason why the Coast Guard is underappreciated or at >>> least unknown compared to Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines. They are part >>> of DHS not DOD. >>> >>> >>> >>> But now that DOD is calling itself the Department of War, maybe DHS is >>> just fine. Although one is Hegseth and the other is Noem, so flip a coin. >>> >>> >>> >>> Coast Guard is also much smaller, has a smaller budget, and a much >>> smaller PR budget. No money to toot their own horn. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2025 10:50 PM >>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] now we're blowing up boats in the Pacific >>> >>> >>> >>> Yeah, but if it’s on the ocean, I’d prefer to see a Hawaii Five 0 style >>> chase. With McGarrett in a speedboat, and at the end he says “book ‘em, >>> Danno”. >>> >>> >>> >>> Besides, I think the Coasties are an underappreciated branch of the US >>> military. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2025 8:31 PM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] now we're blowing up boats in the Pacific >>> >>> >>> >>> I prefer to see cartels bombed. When they started moving the fent, they >>> chose bombs. A little nose candy here and there, some dope, a little >>> crystal, even some heroin was manageable. But these ducks decided to move >>> shit that one mistake kills. Fuckbag dealers are putting it it club drugs >>> and on vicodins. Kids don't have a chance to make a mistake. >>> >>> >>> >>> Bomb the shit out of them. Sink their boats, cut their life jackets, >>> chum the waters, I don't care as long as they die. They don't want to give >>> our kids a second chance, their adults deserve as terrible a death as >>> possible. Idgaf about human rights, they don't, and I have no interest in >>> the high road. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2025, 6:45 PM Dev <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Turns out drug dealers sometimes get shot, who knew? Maybe they were >>> delivering critical supplies to orphanages, because speedboats with three >>> engines mean urgent care is being delivered expeditiously? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 22, 2025, at 3:03 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Article on the latest generation of US Coast Guard “Over The Horizon” >>> boats. >>> >>> >>> https://www.workboat.com/shipbuilding/test-driving-the-coast-guard-s-new-over-the-horizon-cutter-boat >>> >>> >>> >>> Generally deployed from a ramp on the back of a larger cutter along with >>> helicopters. These things vaguely remind me of the WWII PT boats. >>> >>> >>> >>> I would not want to try and outrun the Coast Guard. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2025 4:24 PM >>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] now we're blowing up boats in the Pacific >>> >>> >>> >>> Yes, and that's the primary argument against this practice. If we have >>> solid intel that they're carrying drugs, and we know where they are, then >>> as soon as they enter our territorial waters we can board the boat and >>> arrest them. The Coast Guard doesn't need a warrant or even a specific >>> reason to board a boat. Some of those boats are faster than Cutters, but I >>> don't have solid info on how often they actually escape when they're >>> already being tracked. It's hard to imagine they really get away often >>> because the Coast Guard also has helicopters, and they're allowed to >>> continue a pursuit into international waters (and onto land) as long as the >>> pursuit started in US waters. >>> >>> >>> >>> Regardless of how often they really get away, it's not normal to blow up >>> someone's boat as a law enforcement action. We also don't execute drug >>> traffickers, and even when the state executes someone there's a trial >>> first. >>> >>> >>> >>> but..... >>> >>> - post-911 we treat foreign terrorist organizations as enemy >>> combatants >>> >>> >>> - the executive branch gets to decide who counts as an FTO. The sec >>> of state, sec of treasury, and attorney general all have to agree, but >>> they >>> also all have the same boss. >>> >>> >>> - Nobody can really stop the executive branch from declaring an FTO. >>> >>> >>> - Congress could pass a bill to override someone's listing as an >>> FTO, but to date they've never done it. >>> >>> >>> - The courts could overturn an FTO listing, but for a lot of reasons >>> it's almost impossible. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> So effectively the President and/or their cabinet has a completely legal >>> pathway to authorize military force against just about anyone, and there's >>> very little anyone can do about it. It's not that I have sympathy for drug >>> smugglers, it's that all we can do is take someone's word for it that it >>> was a drug smuggler. If anyone is totally comfortable with that then I'm >>> curious what your rationale is. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Ken Hohhof < >>> [email protected]> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2025 3:00 PM >>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> >>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] now we're blowing up boats in the Pacific >>> >>> >>> >>> *https://x.com/SecWar/status/1981049943306752361 >>> <https://x.com/SecWar/status/1981049943306752361>* >>> >>> >>> >>> I thought the Coast Guard was able to intercept boats and board them, >>> arrest people and confiscate cargo. 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