Oh that's great, at least I can safely assume it isn't full....yet...
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Ben Moore via Af <[email protected]> wrote: > We have a whole wall for you... ;) > > On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Josh Luthman via Af <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Oh god has my white board turned into a black board? >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Ben Moore via Af <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> We have a running Mike list ;) >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:40 AM, Mike Hammett via Af <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey, hey, hey. >>>> >>>> I may have been very vocal about wanting a change of direction on >>>> something (and countless other things, I'm sure). Wait, do you have a count >>>> there? A whiteboard with tally marks for each time I've been "bold" >>>> regarding some UBNT position or product? Hrm.. Anyway, but I also commend >>>> when good and when the one thread kept going after we had the concession >>>> from Robert... I asked everyone (more than once) to close the thread. We >>>> got what we wanted, now shut up. >>>> >>>> As you noticed, I'm like that to other manufacturers a well. ;-) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From: *"Ben Moore via Af" <[email protected]> >>>> *To: *[email protected] >>>> *Sent: *Thursday, December 11, 2014 10:36:53 AM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. >>>> >>>> Does it matter if he asked? Mike has been naughty this year... ;-) >>>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:30 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Have you asked Santa? :) >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> *From:* Mike Hammett via Af <[email protected]> >>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:39 AM >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. >>>>> >>>>> I want a bigger AF5. :-\ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From: *"Keefe John via Af" <[email protected]> >>>>> *To: *[email protected] >>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:36:35 AM >>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe it could be an integrated solution with only one 'dish' vs the >>>>> dogbone design. I'm sure a lot of people would appreciate a smaller >>>>> AF5--even if it had less throughput/distance. >>>>> >>>>> Keefe >>>>> >>>>> On 12/11/2014 8:29 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: >>>>> >>>>> via license? *ducking* >>>>> >>>>> It could be lower end hardware, though I don't know how the costs of >>>>> design and manufacture change. Lower throughput may allow for smaller, >>>>> cheaper processors. Smaller processors use less power, so smaller power >>>>> supply? I'm no engineer, so I can't tell you how much this would or would >>>>> not change the price. >>>>> >>>>> Something that only does 10 MHz wide? >>>>> >>>>> I don't know their cost to manufacture, so I don't know how low they >>>>> can go with the existing hardware and still make money. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On the license front, I think people don't like the Cambium license >>>>> system because the base unit is too slow and there are too many units. I >>>>> think Gino's got something with a $1k 200 meg unit. Would be great for >>>>> (business) customer installs. Maybe just one license to go from Lite to >>>>> Full? Two things to keep track of, not several. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From: *"Gino Villarini via Af" <[email protected]> <[email protected]> >>>>> *To: *[email protected] >>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:20:01 AM >>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. >>>>> >>>>> I asked this and got a negative response… UBNT should work o AF24 2 >>>>> with 1 Gig capacity and a AF24Lite for 200-500 Mbps capacity for $1k link >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Gino A. Villarini >>>>> President >>>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >>>>> www.aeronetpr.com >>>>> @aeronetpr >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>>> Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>>> Date: Thursday, December 11, 2014 at 9:27 AM >>>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. >>>>> >>>>> Could they increase the QAM on the current AF24 to match that of the >>>>> AF5 and at least do 1 gigabit FDX on the current shipping hardware? Not >>>>> sure how increasing QAM levels work in FPGA land. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From: *"Colin Stanners via Af" <[email protected]> >>>>> *To: *[email protected] >>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 10, 2014 11:19:46 PM >>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. >>>>> >>>>> I'm sure they'll do a 24ghz AF 2/Duo/Super/Ultra with 1024QAM. In the >>>>> 100mhz channels both ways that'll allow around 1280mbit FD - so a 2.5gbit >>>>> backhaul... I'm assuming 3.65 will come as well. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'd guess there's going to be... a least 3 AirFiber products >>>>>> released in the next 12-18 months. >>>>>> >>>>>> If not sooner. >>>>>> >>>>>> Now... what would those be? >>>>>> >>>>>> Hrmmmmmmmmm..... >>>>>> >>>>>> josh reynolds :: chief information officer >>>>>> spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/10/2014 08:07 PM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I don’t know what you are talking about. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Rory >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >>>>>> Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds via Af >>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:05 PM >>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm sure that AirFiber team (which they seem to keep expanding) is >>>>>> silently sitting in their own little corner in Chicago doing nothing. >>>>>> >>>>>> :P >>>>>> >>>>>> josh reynolds :: chief information officer >>>>>> >>>>>> spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/10/2014 07:48 PM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I think the ePMP is going to run into the same problem all the >>>>>> 802.11ac vendors are seeing with the new OOBE rules. The 450 is able to >>>>>> provide a better performance within the new environment so there will >>>>>> still >>>>>> be a differentiator. The only question if it’s worth the difference. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Rory >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >>>>>> Behalf Of *Stefan Englhardt via Af >>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:45 PM >>>>>> *To:* Josh Luthman via Af >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> .AC is an upgrade to .N. Cambium has the choice to use it or not. >>>>>> Others do. epmp competes with 450 right now but helps to keep customers >>>>>> and >>>>>> applications where 450 does not meet the price point. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Von:* Josh Luthman via Af <[email protected]> >>>>>> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 11. Dezember 2014 04:00 >>>>>> *An:* Josh Luthman via Af <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> An .AC ePMP would be incredible - but the issue is whether Cambium >>>>>> would be >>>>>> fearful of it competing too much with the 450. What does a company do >>>>>> when >>>>>> it has 2 products that are too good, and the cheaper one starts to >>>>>> outshine >>>>>> the more expensive one in the most often used benchmark? (mbps - even >>>>>> .AC >>>>>> ePMP is unlikely to beat 450 in scalability / latency / etc). >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Stefan Englhardt via Af < >>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> > The answer is to release an epmp1000-ac. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > *Von:* Josh Luthman via Af <[email protected]> >>>>>> > *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 11. Dezember 2014 01:39 >>>>>> > *An:* Josh Luthman via Af <[email protected]> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I hope Cambium is listing on this point. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Get rid of speed license and make it as unlimited radios at 10 meg >>>>>> price >>>>>> > point. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > They are about to have more competition from lot of other vendors >>>>>> too. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Tushar >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>>>> > From: Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] On >>>>>> Behalf Of Peter Kranz via Af >>>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:10 PM >>>>>> > To: [email protected] >>>>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > Yes no maybe. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I think this is good news actually, as it is sure to light the >>>>>> competitive >>>>>> > fire under Cambium to get to feature parity and get rid of speed >>>>>> licenses. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
