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On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Josh Luthman via Af <[email protected]> wrote:

> Oh god has my white board turned into a black board?
>
>
> Josh Luthman
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> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Ben Moore via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> We have a running Mike list ;)
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:40 AM, Mike Hammett via Af <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey, hey, hey.
>>>
>>> I may have been very vocal about wanting a change of direction on
>>> something (and countless other things, I'm sure). Wait, do you have a count
>>> there? A whiteboard with tally marks for each time I've been "bold"
>>> regarding some UBNT position or product? Hrm..  Anyway, but I also commend
>>> when good and when the one thread kept going after we had the concession
>>> from Robert... I asked everyone (more than once) to close the thread. We
>>> got what we wanted, now shut up.
>>>
>>> As you noticed, I'm like that to other manufacturers a well.  ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: *"Ben Moore via Af" <[email protected]>
>>> *To: *[email protected]
>>> *Sent: *Thursday, December 11, 2014 10:36:53 AM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..
>>>
>>> Does it matter if he asked?  Mike has been naughty this year...  ;-)
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:30 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Have you asked Santa? :)
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> *From:* Mike Hammett via Af <[email protected]>
>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:39 AM
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..
>>>>
>>>> I want a bigger AF5. :-\
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From: *"Keefe John via Af" <[email protected]>
>>>> *To: *[email protected]
>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:36:35 AM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..
>>>>
>>>> Maybe it could be an integrated solution with only one 'dish' vs the
>>>> dogbone design.  I'm sure a lot of people would appreciate a smaller
>>>> AF5--even if it had less throughput/distance.
>>>>
>>>> Keefe
>>>>
>>>> On 12/11/2014 8:29 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:
>>>>
>>>> via license?  *ducking*
>>>>
>>>> It could be lower end hardware, though I don't know how the costs of
>>>> design and manufacture change. Lower throughput may allow for smaller,
>>>> cheaper processors. Smaller processors use less power, so smaller power
>>>> supply? I'm no engineer, so I can't tell you how much this would or would
>>>> not change the price.
>>>>
>>>> Something that only does 10 MHz wide?
>>>>
>>>> I don't know their cost to manufacture, so I don't know how low they
>>>> can go with the existing hardware and still make money.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On the license front, I think people don't like the Cambium license
>>>> system because the base unit is too slow and there are too many units. I
>>>> think Gino's got something with a $1k 200 meg unit. Would be great for
>>>> (business) customer installs. Maybe just one license to go from Lite to
>>>> Full? Two things to keep track of, not several.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From: *"Gino Villarini via Af" <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
>>>> *To: *[email protected]
>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:20:01 AM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..
>>>>
>>>>  I asked this and got a negative response… UBNT should work o AF24 2
>>>> with 1 Gig capacity and a AF24Lite for 200-500 Mbps capacity for $1k link
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>>> President
>>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>>> www.aeronetpr.com
>>>> @aeronetpr
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>> Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>> Date: Thursday, December 11, 2014 at 9:27 AM
>>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..
>>>>
>>>>  Could they increase the QAM on the current AF24 to match that of the
>>>> AF5 and at least do 1 gigabit FDX on the current shipping hardware? Not
>>>> sure how increasing QAM levels work in FPGA land.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From: *"Colin Stanners via Af" <[email protected]>
>>>> *To: *[email protected]
>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 10, 2014 11:19:46 PM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure they'll do a 24ghz AF 2/Duo/Super/Ultra with 1024QAM. In the
>>>> 100mhz channels both ways that'll allow around 1280mbit FD - so a 2.5gbit
>>>> backhaul...  I'm assuming 3.65 will come as well.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  I'd guess there's going to be... a least 3 AirFiber products
>>>>> released in the next 12-18 months.
>>>>>
>>>>> If not sooner.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now... what would those be?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hrmmmmmmmmm.....
>>>>>
>>>>> josh reynolds :: chief information officer
>>>>> spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
>>>>>
>>>>>  On 12/10/2014 08:07 PM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  I don’t know what you are talking about.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rory
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>>>>> Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds via Af
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:05 PM
>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure that AirFiber team (which they seem to keep expanding) is
>>>>> silently sitting in their own little corner in Chicago doing nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>> :P
>>>>>
>>>>> josh reynolds :: chief information officer
>>>>>
>>>>> spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/10/2014 07:48 PM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the ePMP is going to run into the same problem all the
>>>>> 802.11ac vendors are seeing with the new OOBE rules.  The 450 is able to
>>>>> provide a better performance within the new environment so there will 
>>>>> still
>>>>> be a differentiator.  The only question if it’s worth the difference.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rory
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>>>>> Behalf Of *Stefan Englhardt via Af
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:45 PM
>>>>> *To:* Josh Luthman via Af
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> .AC is an upgrade to .N. Cambium has the choice to use it or not.
>>>>> Others do. epmp competes with 450 right now but helps to keep customers 
>>>>> and
>>>>> applications where 450 does not meet the price point.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Von:* Josh Luthman via Af <[email protected]>
>>>>> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 11. Dezember 2014 04:00
>>>>> *An:* Josh Luthman via Af <[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> An .AC ePMP would be incredible - but the issue is whether Cambium
>>>>> would be
>>>>> fearful of it competing too much with the 450. What does a company do
>>>>> when
>>>>> it has 2 products that are too good, and the cheaper one starts to
>>>>> outshine
>>>>> the more expensive one in the most often used benchmark? (mbps - even
>>>>> .AC
>>>>> ePMP is unlikely to beat 450 in scalability / latency / etc).
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Stefan Englhardt via Af <[email protected]
>>>>> >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >  The answer is to release an epmp1000-ac.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > *Von:* Josh Luthman via Af <[email protected]>
>>>>> > *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 11. Dezember 2014 01:39
>>>>> > *An:* Josh Luthman via Af <[email protected]>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I hope Cambium is listing on this point.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Get rid of speed license and make it as unlimited radios at 10 meg
>>>>> price
>>>>> > point.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > They are about to have more competition from lot of other vendors
>>>>> too.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Tushar
>>>>> >
>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>> > From: Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Peter Kranz via Af
>>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:10 PM
>>>>> > To: [email protected]
>>>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted..
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > Yes no maybe.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I think this is good news actually, as it is sure to light the
>>>>> competitive
>>>>> > fire under Cambium to get to feature parity and get rid of speed
>>>>> licenses.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
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