Oh god has my white board turned into a black board?
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Ben Moore via Af <[email protected]> wrote: > We have a running Mike list ;) > > On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:40 AM, Mike Hammett via Af <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hey, hey, hey. >> >> I may have been very vocal about wanting a change of direction on >> something (and countless other things, I'm sure). Wait, do you have a count >> there? A whiteboard with tally marks for each time I've been "bold" >> regarding some UBNT position or product? Hrm.. Anyway, but I also commend >> when good and when the one thread kept going after we had the concession >> from Robert... I asked everyone (more than once) to close the thread. We >> got what we wanted, now shut up. >> >> As you noticed, I'm like that to other manufacturers a well. ;-) >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Ben Moore via Af" <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Thursday, December 11, 2014 10:36:53 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. >> >> Does it matter if he asked? Mike has been naughty this year... ;-) >> >> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:30 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Have you asked Santa? :) >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> *From:* Mike Hammett via Af <[email protected]> >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:39 AM >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. >>> >>> I want a bigger AF5. :-\ >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Keefe John via Af" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:36:35 AM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. >>> >>> Maybe it could be an integrated solution with only one 'dish' vs the >>> dogbone design. I'm sure a lot of people would appreciate a smaller >>> AF5--even if it had less throughput/distance. >>> >>> Keefe >>> >>> On 12/11/2014 8:29 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: >>> >>> via license? *ducking* >>> >>> It could be lower end hardware, though I don't know how the costs of >>> design and manufacture change. Lower throughput may allow for smaller, >>> cheaper processors. Smaller processors use less power, so smaller power >>> supply? I'm no engineer, so I can't tell you how much this would or would >>> not change the price. >>> >>> Something that only does 10 MHz wide? >>> >>> I don't know their cost to manufacture, so I don't know how low they can >>> go with the existing hardware and still make money. >>> >>> >>> >>> On the license front, I think people don't like the Cambium license >>> system because the base unit is too slow and there are too many units. I >>> think Gino's got something with a $1k 200 meg unit. Would be great for >>> (business) customer installs. Maybe just one license to go from Lite to >>> Full? Two things to keep track of, not several. >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Gino Villarini via Af" <[email protected]> <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:20:01 AM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. >>> >>> I asked this and got a negative response… UBNT should work o AF24 2 >>> with 1 Gig capacity and a AF24Lite for 200-500 Mbps capacity for $1k link >>> >>> >>> >>> Gino A. Villarini >>> President >>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >>> www.aeronetpr.com >>> @aeronetpr >>> >>> >>> >>> From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>> Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>> Date: Thursday, December 11, 2014 at 9:27 AM >>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. >>> >>> Could they increase the QAM on the current AF24 to match that of the >>> AF5 and at least do 1 gigabit FDX on the current shipping hardware? Not >>> sure how increasing QAM levels work in FPGA land. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Colin Stanners via Af" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 10, 2014 11:19:46 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. >>> >>> I'm sure they'll do a 24ghz AF 2/Duo/Super/Ultra with 1024QAM. In the >>> 100mhz channels both ways that'll allow around 1280mbit FD - so a 2.5gbit >>> backhaul... I'm assuming 3.65 will come as well. >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I'd guess there's going to be... a least 3 AirFiber products released >>>> in the next 12-18 months. >>>> >>>> If not sooner. >>>> >>>> Now... what would those be? >>>> >>>> Hrmmmmmmmmm..... >>>> >>>> josh reynolds :: chief information officer >>>> spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com >>>> >>>> On 12/10/2014 08:07 PM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote: >>>> >>>> I don’t know what you are talking about. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rory >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >>>> Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds via Af >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:05 PM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm sure that AirFiber team (which they seem to keep expanding) is >>>> silently sitting in their own little corner in Chicago doing nothing. >>>> >>>> :P >>>> >>>> josh reynolds :: chief information officer >>>> >>>> spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com >>>> >>>> On 12/10/2014 07:48 PM, Rory Conaway via Af wrote: >>>> >>>> I think the ePMP is going to run into the same problem all the 802.11ac >>>> vendors are seeing with the new OOBE rules. The 450 is able to provide a >>>> better performance within the new environment so there will still be a >>>> differentiator. The only question if it’s worth the difference. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rory >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >>>> Behalf Of *Stefan Englhardt via Af >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:45 PM >>>> *To:* Josh Luthman via Af >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> .AC is an upgrade to .N. Cambium has the choice to use it or not. >>>> Others do. epmp competes with 450 right now but helps to keep customers and >>>> applications where 450 does not meet the price point. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Von:* Josh Luthman via Af <[email protected]> >>>> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 11. Dezember 2014 04:00 >>>> *An:* Josh Luthman via Af <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> An .AC ePMP would be incredible - but the issue is whether Cambium >>>> would be >>>> fearful of it competing too much with the 450. What does a company do >>>> when >>>> it has 2 products that are too good, and the cheaper one starts to >>>> outshine >>>> the more expensive one in the most often used benchmark? (mbps - even >>>> .AC >>>> ePMP is unlikely to beat 450 in scalability / latency / etc). >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Stefan Englhardt via Af <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> > The answer is to release an epmp1000-ac. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > *Von:* Josh Luthman via Af <[email protected]> >>>> > *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 11. Dezember 2014 01:39 >>>> > *An:* Josh Luthman via Af <[email protected]> >>>> > >>>> > I hope Cambium is listing on this point. >>>> > >>>> > Get rid of speed license and make it as unlimited radios at 10 meg >>>> price >>>> > point. >>>> > >>>> > They are about to have more competition from lot of other vendors too. >>>> > >>>> > Tushar >>>> > >>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>> > From: Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] On >>>> Behalf Of Peter Kranz via Af >>>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:10 PM >>>> > To: [email protected] >>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RM5AC-PMP Embargo lifted.. >>>> > >>>> > > Yes no maybe. >>>> > >>>> > I think this is good news actually, as it is sure to light the >>>> competitive >>>> > fire under Cambium to get to feature parity and get rid of speed >>>> licenses. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >
