What exactly is the problem with adding tools to make it easier to access??? Just add the features that people want, if you don't like 'em don't use 'em!
</thread> Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Mark Radabaugh via Af <[email protected]> wrote: > > Because we install 10, 15, sometimes 20 CPE a day. It's a pain in the ass > having to McGiver your way into them every time. Sure we auto-configure a > lot of it, but there are still have to get into them to look at signal > strength and such during the install or when troubleshooting. > > Mark > > On Dec 18, 2014, at 8:11 PM, Mike Hammett via Af <[email protected]> wrote: > > Why do you need to access CPE that aren't directly accessible multiple > times a day? > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Ken Hohhof via Af" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Thursday, December 18, 2014 7:06:44 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy > > But I don’t think he’s talking how a skilled person could MacGyver it, but > rather a session list right there in the GUI with every subscriber listed > by name, and you click on the name and shazzam, you are logged into that SM. > > Like one of many things that pisses me off about my $10K Purewave > basestation is you can see a list of CPE MAC addresses by subscriber name, > but if you want to see any stats or change the config for that subscriber, > you have to find him by his MAC address, not by name. The expensive piece > of crap equipment has all the information to make your life easy, but no, > it acts like a glorified MIB browser. They even rolled out an NMS that I > assumed would add this level of intelligence, but no. > > So yes in a pinch you could probably get there through some MAC telnet > tricks. But with the AP proxy feature, it’s one click and boom. If you > don’t find it useful, fine. Most of us use it multiple times every day. > It’s a cool feature. > > > *From:* Mathew Howard via Af <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:50 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy > > If there's a mac-telnet package out there for linux, you kind of have to > wonder why it isn't already in airOS... and ePMP, for that matter. it seems > like it would be pretty simple to add and incredibly useful. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Af [[email protected]] on behalf of Mike Hammett via Af [ > [email protected]] > *Sent:* Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:45 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy > > I never really had a need for it. I now no longer have any PMP devices on > my network. > > Now that I deploy any new Mikrotik wireless either, but if you can get to > any Mikrotik device on that layer 2 segment, you can get to the rest. > Router, AP, CPE, doesn't matter. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Steve D via Af" <[email protected]> > *To: *"af" <[email protected]> > *Sent: *Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:01:01 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy > > Mike, > > You sound like you're trying to excuse it for not being there instead of > just embracing a good feature that works? Yes, there are ways around, BUT, > the Canopy AP-SM proxy *just works*. No thinking about how to get to that > SM is required, if you can get to the AP then you can get to the SM - end > of story. > > -Steve D > > On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Mike Hammett via Af <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Use the CLI to fix whatever's wrong with accessing the GUI? >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Bill Prince via Af" <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Thursday, December 18, 2014 10:34:41 AM >> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy >> >> Possibly a little simpler with similar results. It gets you a CLI on the >> target client. The proxy is nice because you can run the web gui. >> >> -- >> bp >> <part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com> >> >> >> On 12/18/2014 8:03 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: >> >> With Mikrotik you can mac-telnet or mac-winbox to anything on that layer >> 2 segment. That sounds more useful than this proxy. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Vlad Sedov via Af" mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:11:55 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy >> >> One thing that makes it so bullet-proof on Canopy, is the internal >> network between the AP and the SMs (169.254.101.x) which is what makes the >> proxy so smooth. With ePMP and UBNT, you're still at the mercy of having >> the right IP address set in the SM before you can manage it (even when >> connecting from the AP). >> We sorely miss this feature in ePMP, and it makes NMS mapping a major >> headache.. We don't pre-map SMs before they go out into the field, so with >> ePMPs, I have to create a static ARP entry for the 192.168.0.2 address in >> the closest Mikrotik router, and use the Tik proxy to get into the SM.. >> Change IP, delete ARP, rinse, repeat. >> >> Click-through is a cruel joke without the proxy. I really, really hope it >> gets properly implemented. >> >> Vlad >> >> On 12/18/2014 7:18 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: >> >> How are you doing it with Ubnt? Can't the same be done with epmp? >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> On Dec 18, 2014 8:06 AM, "Mark Radabaugh via Af" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> For our install method proxy access (or some means of remote access to a >>> minimally configured CPE) is a must have. The installers do NOT have to >>> get out a computer or otherwise access the device. Power it up, point it >>> at the tower, listen for signal, call the office for a signal quality check >>> and go. Everything regarding CPE programming can be done remotely. >>> >>> This can be done with Ubnt as well by SSH to the AP's and then to the >>> CPE but it's not as clean as Canopy. >>> >>> No way at all that I know of with ePMP. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> >>> On Dec 17, 2014, at 11:04 PM, Steve D via Af <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Use it all the time. Between it and installer color code field techs >>> can't FUBAR an install. When our larger networks were vlan'd years ago >>> that made the process super safe. >>> One of the "best features" of the canopy platform in my book. It annoys >>> me working on 802.11 crap when I see a tech has typo'd something like an IP >>> or vlan. >>> On Dec 17, 2014 7:30 PM, "Bill Prince via Af" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Me too. >>>> >>>> I don't know how many times I've used it, but it's more than I have >>>> finger to count on. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> bp >>>> <part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/17/2014 7:08 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: >>>> >>>> No, rather just have it. >>>> >>>> On 12/17/2014 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: >>>> >>>> Rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it. >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> On Dec 17, 2014 9:55 PM, "Mike Hammett via Af" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I used it a couple times on my Canopy gear, but it was never a >>>>> show-stopper to not have it. >>>>> >>>>> This brings me to a new post... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From: *"George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af" <[email protected]> >>>>> *To: *[email protected] >>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:30:14 PM >>>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP proxy >>>>> >>>>> OK Cambium ePMP dudes and chicks, I am disappointed. I thought you guys >>>>> >>>>> had Canopy-like SM "click-thru" access, aka LUID proxy. But this is not >>>>> >>>>> the case on 2.3.3. All you give me is a URL with the IP of the SM. >>>>> Informational helpful, yes, operationally helpful, no. >>>>> >>>>> I'm guessing you need an RF private network like exists on Canopy to >>>>> make this work. Please do it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> <http://www.avast.com/> >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> www.avast.com >> >> >
