Why do you make two trips??? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 18, 2014 11:03 PM, "Josh Reynolds via Af" <[email protected]> wrote:
> We either send out a site survey crew to talk to the customer, plan mounting > position, cable run, and verify service level the customer wants -- then > send out a setup crew a few days later with pre-provisioned gear and > pictures of everything.. > > Or we do a site/survey setup, with a nbm5-25, rm5+RG30, single angle > tripod, tripod, 5/10 ft poles, u arms, nbem2, rm2+rd, and maybe a few > scattered nanostations. > > Our office takes care of provisioning everybody out in our traffic > shaper, dhcp, any custom routes, etc in about 10 minutes (general office > staff). > > Some of that stuff will change as we continue to move forward with powercode > + procera though. > > josh reynolds :: chief information officer > spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com > > On 12/18/2014 05:38 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: > > Even at a much lower install per day rate than Mark’s, I sometimes have an > installer out with 3 different radios for a given install. This week we had > one that was going to be either 450 in 3.65, 450 in 5.7, or FSK in 2.4. > Meanwhile I’m at another site with my laptop playing the role of the NOC guy. > I am logged into the sessions page of the APs, waiting for a new session to > pop up at the bottom of the list. When that happens, I check the signal and > run a linktest. If the numbers look good, I tell the installer when he > calls, meanwhile I’m putting an IP address on the new SM, putting the > customer’s name on the SNMP page, and configuring anything special like high > priority CIR or uplink/downlink sustained rates. Same routine if I have a > guy out on a maintenance call and he’s pulling a spare or takedown SM from > the van to use as replacement. Even if I had a fancy billing system like > Mike has to let me click on the customer’s name on a map, t > his would > not be set up yet in these cases. > > > From: Mark Radabaugh via Af > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:08 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy > > Because we install 10, 15, sometimes 20 CPE a day. It's a pain in the ass > having to McGiver your way into them every time. Sure we auto-configure a > lot of it, but there are still have to get into them to look at signal > strength and such during the install or when troubleshooting. > > Mark > > On Dec 18, 2014, at 8:11 PM, Mike Hammett via Af <[email protected]> > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Why do you need to access CPE that aren't directly accessible multiple > times a day? > > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From: "Ken Hohhof via Af" <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 7:06:44 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy > > > But I don’t think he’s talking how a skilled person could MacGyver it, but > rather a session list right there in the GUI with every subscriber listed by > name, and you click on the name and shazzam, you are logged into that SM. > > Like one of many things that pisses me off about my $10K Purewave > basestation is you can see a list of CPE MAC addresses by subscriber name, > but if you want to see any stats or change the config for that subscriber, > you have to find him by his MAC address, not by name. The expensive piece of > crap equipment has all the information to make your life easy, but no, it > acts like a glorified MIB browser. They even rolled out an NMS that I > assumed would add this level of intelligence, but no. > > So yes in a pinch you could probably get there through some MAC telnet > tricks. But with the AP proxy feature, it’s one click and boom. If you > don’t find it useful, fine. Most of us use it multiple times every day. > It’s a cool feature. > > > From: Mathew Howard via Af > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:50 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy > > If there's a mac-telnet package out there for linux, you kind of have to > wonder why it isn't already in airOS... and ePMP, for that matter. it seems > like it would be pretty simple to add and incredibly useful. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From: Af [[email protected]] on behalf of Mike Hammett via Af > [[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:45 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy > > > I never really had a need for it. I now no longer have any PMP devices on > my network. > > Now that I deploy any new Mikrotik wireless either, but if you can get to > any Mikrotik device on that layer 2 segment, you can get to the rest. Router, > AP, CPE, doesn't matter. > > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From: "Steve D via Af" <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > To: "af" <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:01:01 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy > > > Mike, > > You sound like you're trying to excuse it for not being there instead of > just embracing a good feature that works? Yes, there are ways around, BUT, > the Canopy AP-SM proxy *just works*. No thinking about how to get to that SM > is required, if you can get to the AP then you can get to the SM - end of > story. > > -Steve D > > On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Mike Hammett via Af <[email protected]> > <[email protected]> wrote: > Use the CLI to fix whatever's wrong with accessing the GUI? > > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Bill Prince via Af" <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 10:34:41 AM > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy > > > Possibly a little simpler with similar results. It gets you a CLI on the > target client. The proxy is nice because you can run the web gui. > > -- > bp > <part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com> > > On 12/18/2014 8:03 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote: > > With Mikrotik you can mac-telnet or mac-winbox to anything on that > layer 2 segment. That sounds more useful than this proxy. > > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Vlad Sedov via Af" mailto:af@afmug. > com > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:11:55 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy > > > One thing that makes it so bullet-proof on Canopy, is the internal > network between the AP and the SMs (169.254.101.x) which is what makes the > proxy so smooth. With ePMP and UBNT, you're still at the mercy of having the > right IP address set in the SM before you can manage it (even when connecting > from the AP). > We sorely miss this feature in ePMP, and it makes NMS mapping a major > headache.. We don't pre-map SMs before they go out into the field, so with > ePMPs, I have to create a static ARP entry for the 192.168.0.2 address in the > closest Mikrotik router, and use the Tik proxy to get into the SM.. Change > IP, delete ARP, rinse, repeat. > > Click-through is a cruel joke without the proxy. I really, really hope > it gets properly implemented. > > Vlad > > On 12/18/2014 7:18 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: > > How are you doing it with Ubnt? Can't the same be done with epmp? > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Dec 18, 2014 8:06 AM, " > <[email protected]:[email protected]:Thursday,December18,20149:11:55AMSubject:Re:[AFMUG]ePMPproxyOnethingthatmakesitsobullet-proofonCanopy,istheinternalnetworkbetweentheAPandtheSMs(169.254.101.x)whichiswhatmakestheproxysosmooth.WithePMPandUBNT,you'restillatthemercyofhavingtherightIPaddresssetintheSMbeforeyoucanmanageit(evenwhenconnectingfromtheAP).WesorelymissthisfeatureinePMP,anditmakesNMSmappingamajorheadache..Wedon'tpre-mapSMsbeforetheygooutintothefield,sowithePMPs,IhavetocreateastaticARPentryforthe192.168.0.2addressintheclosestMikrotikrouter,andusetheTikproxytogetintotheSM..ChangeIP,deleteARP,rinse,repeat.Click-throughisacrueljokewithouttheproxy.Ireally,reallyhopeitgetsproperlyimplemented.VladOn12/18/20147:18AM,JoshLuthmanviaAfwrote:HowareyoudoingitwithUbnt?Can'tthesamebedonewithepmp?JoshLuthmanOffice:937-552-2340Direct:937-552-23431100WayneStSuite1337Troy,OH45373OnDec18,20148:06AM,>Mark > Radabaugh via Af" <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote: > > For our install method proxy access (or some means of remote access > to a minimally configured CPE) is a must have. The installers do NOT have to > get out a computer or otherwise access the device. Power it up, point it at > the tower, listen for signal, call the office for a signal quality check and > go. Everything regarding CPE programming can be done remotely. > > This can be done with Ubnt as well by SSH to the AP's and then to > the CPE but it's not as clean as Canopy. > > No way at all that I know of with ePMP. > > Mark > > > On Dec 17, 2014, at 11:04 PM, Steve D via Af <[email protected]> > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Use it all the time. Between it and installer color code field > techs can't FUBAR an install. When our larger networks were vlan'd years ago > that made the process super safe. > One of the "best features" of the canopy platform in my book. It > annoys me working on 802.11 crap when I see a tech has typo'd something like > an IP or vlan. > On Dec 17, 2014 7:30 PM, "Bill Prince via Af" <[email protected]> > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Me too. > > I don't know how many times I've used it, but it's more than I > have finger to count on. > > > -- > bp > <part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com> > > On 12/17/2014 7:08 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: > > No, rather just have it. > > On 12/17/2014 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote: > > Rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it. > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Dec 17, 2014 9:55 PM, "Mike Hammett via Af" > <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote: > > I used it a couple times on my Canopy gear, but it was > never a show-stopper to not have it. > > This brings me to a new post... > > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > From: "George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af" > <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:30:14 PM > Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP proxy > > OK Cambium ePMP dudes and chicks, I am disappointed. I > thought you guys > had Canopy-like SM "click-thru" access, aka LUID proxy. > But this is not > the case on 2.3.3. All you give me is a URL with the IP > of the SM. > Informational helpful, yes, operationally helpful, no. > > I'm guessing you need an RF private network like exists > on Canopy to > make this work. Please do it. > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus > software. > www.avast.com > > >
