I recommend only the Apple AirPort Extreme to all of my customers. It's the 
only stable router I've ever found, and I've played with a LOT of the high end 
ones.  I get fewer service calls from any customers using apple routers than 
any other router. Asus is by far the highest service call router out there.

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

> On May 16, 2015, at 10:11 AM, Darin Steffl <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Apple routers absolutely SUCK and not sure why people like buying them 
> personally. You need some stupid app to configure it and there's no Web GUI. 
> If its his router and his playstation, you as an ISP have no part in fixing 
> it. It's very hard sometimes to explain to the customer that you provide 
> internet to the home ending at the POE or modem. After that it is their 
> router and their end devices. We get calls sometimes where 7 devices are 
> working great but one device isn't working and they want it to be our 
> problem. We have to explain if the whole house is offline then it is our 
> problem. 
> 
>> On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 11:08 AM, joseph marsh <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> This customer has had his PlayStation working  and it stopped working  he's 
>> getting 10 meg and he wants us to fix it
>> 
>> Its connected to a apple router and they are within a foot of each other
>> 
>> BTW I hate apple routers  my opinion
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2015 10:54 AM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Nothing formal but the process we use with all devices that aren’t computers
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 1)      Does the device see the broadcast SSID?
>>> 
>>> 2)      If not, then the WiFi doesn’t work on the device and you need an 
>>> external WiFi adapter or get it fixed. Lots of Xboxes fall into this 
>>> category.
>>> 
>>> 3)      If it does see it, test without encryption, see if that works.  We 
>>> run into a couple of options with this issue, can’t negotiate security, 
>>> devices only supports WEP, WPA, or WPS which Ubiquiti doesn’t support.
>>> 
>>> 4)      If it still doesn’t work, check all updates and firmware
>>> 
>>> 5)      From there, try replacing the AP or testing with another AP
>>> 
>>> 6)      At the point, replace the playstation or the device
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of joseph marsh
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 8:28 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Customer equipment
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Is anyone got a sop for working on customer equipment. Such as calling  to 
>>> say sons PlayStation not working ?
>>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Darin Steffl
> Minnesota WiFi
> www.mnwifi.com
> 507-634-WiFi
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