What about those who use linux as their "daily driver" on their laptop, use BSD/vyatta/mikrotik/edgeOS for routing, have a RB2011 at home, a Ubiquiti CPE to the office, a garage full of various routers/switches/network devices, multiple android phones, android tablets, and who buys their wife chromebooks? (which she LOVES btw)

...where do I fit in? :(


On 2015-05-16 2:33 pm, Jon Auer wrote:
You know, I think Chuck is on to something with his Apples vs Dells
comparison, just with a twist: Apple devices are used by a large
portion of "the elites" and those that aspire to join them (with some
obvious limitations e.g. EDA/CAD space). In that sense yes, there's a
large number of idiots buying them to fit in or for conspicuous
consumption.

Beyond that,

Everyone I know that is truly excellent in IT (be it ISP,MSP,dev) uses
a high-res macbook pro and a iphone. Everyone I know that doesn't
stand out that much or is just punching a clock uses a windows pc.

By truly excellent I mean the people doing things at mind-bending
scale: event wifi for a stadium of nerds+setup in days+with 4x10G
internet handoff or leading-edge routing research.

Not trying to be a platform fanboy here. I use & abuse whatever's best
for the job. Currently rocking: android phone, juniper router, aruba
wifi, windows pc (because visual studio), high-res macbook pro
(sidestep the linux systemd/gnome3/whatever bs), and a chromebook
(serial console, ssh, web browser).

I prefer the chromebook.

On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]>
wrote:

The only thing that works best on Apple products are idiots.

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FROM: "Brett A Mansfield" <[email protected]>
TO: [email protected]
SENT: Saturday, May 16, 2015 2:11:41 PM
SUBJECT: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment

I'm the farthest right wing conservative you're likely to ever meet,
not rich but not poor, and white. I only use PC if there is an
absolute reason for it...and that is extremely rare. All of the best
networking tools work best on mac.

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

On May 16, 2015, at 12:56 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
wrote:

Apples, (black)Lincolns and Birkenstocks are for rich liberal
democrats.

PCs (specifically Dells), white Cadillacs and Ostrich Boots are
for rich conservative republicans.

Republican boys like to date democrat girls but marry republican
girls (and later cheat with democrat divorcees).

Democrat girls like to date democrat boys but they are all too
poor and stoned and majoring in liberal arts or political science.

Republican girls just run around with each other getting drunk
until some republican boy sobers up enough to ask them for marriage.

Poor republican boys get reality shows involving guns, mud,
moonshine and wrestling animals in a swamp.

Poor democrat boys wear shirts with political causes printed on
them, hang out with Goth cutter girls and smoke cigarettes.

Give a republican boy a welder and he will make a swamp buggy out
of an old VW.
Give a democrat boy a welder and he will turn it into an objet
d'art symbolizing the military industrial oppression of the worker.

And that is why there are so many apple haters here...

-----Original Message----- From: Brett A Mansfield
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 12:43 PM

To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment

I buy all of my groceries at Walmart and most of my electronics at
apple. There are a lot of apple haters on here it seems.

I can walk a customer through setting up their AirPort Extreme a
lot easier than Asus, netgear, or dlink. The Apple interface never
changes. It's the same for every model. The others change their gui
quite frequently.

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

On May 16, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

I remember telling a customer he should either learn how to
configure his AirPort himself, get AppleCare, or get a regular
router like a Linksys or Netgear with a web GUI if he expected his
ISP to provide step-by-step phone support.

He said he would go out and buy a non-Apple router.

He came back with a TimeMachine.

That's another thing I hate about Apple, they have to use special
names for ordinary things, so people don't compare prices. So you
don't have a router, you have an AirPort. You don't have an
external hard drive, you have a TimeMachine.

But just like some people only shop at WalMart, some people only
shop for electronics at the Apple Store. Probably the same people
who buy all their groceries at Whole Foods.


-----Original Message----- From: Bill Prince
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 1:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment

No doubt.

The least they could do is to give it a web GUI. Beyond me why it
has to
be some proprietary interface.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 5/16/2015 10:37 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
On 5/16/15 10:17, Bill Prince wrote:

Plus, for reasons that are not clear to me, Apple has to change
the way
the stupid AirPort admin tool works every month or two. So even
if you
knew how to set it up in August; come September it's a whole
new ball game.


Software developers need to do something.

~Seth




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