You know, I think Chuck is on to something with his Apples vs Dells comparison, just with a twist: Apple devices are used by a large portion of "the elites" and those that aspire to join them (with some obvious limitations e.g. EDA/CAD space). In that sense yes, there's a large number of idiots buying them to fit in or for conspicuous consumption.
Beyond that, Everyone I know that is truly excellent in IT (be it ISP,MSP,dev) uses a high-res macbook pro and a iphone. Everyone I know that doesn't stand out that much or is just punching a clock uses a windows pc. By truly excellent I mean the people doing things at mind-bending scale: event wifi for a stadium of nerds+setup in days+with 4x10G internet handoff or leading-edge routing research. Not trying to be a platform fanboy here. I use & abuse whatever's best for the job. Currently rocking: android phone, juniper router, aruba wifi, windows pc (because visual studio), high-res macbook pro (sidestep the linux systemd/gnome3/whatever bs), and a chromebook (serial console, ssh, web browser). I prefer the chromebook. On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > The only thing that works best on Apple products are idiots. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Brett A Mansfield" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Saturday, May 16, 2015 2:11:41 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment > > I'm the farthest right wing conservative you're likely to ever meet, not > rich but not poor, and white. I only use PC if there is an absolute reason > for it...and that is extremely rare. All of the best networking tools work > best on mac. > > Thank you, > Brett A Mansfield > > > On May 16, 2015, at 12:56 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Apples, (black)Lincolns and Birkenstocks are for rich liberal democrats. > > > > PCs (specifically Dells), white Cadillacs and Ostrich Boots are for rich > conservative republicans. > > > > Republican boys like to date democrat girls but marry republican girls > (and later cheat with democrat divorcees). > > > > Democrat girls like to date democrat boys but they are all too poor and > stoned and majoring in liberal arts or political science. > > > > Republican girls just run around with each other getting drunk until > some republican boy sobers up enough to ask them for marriage. > > > > Poor republican boys get reality shows involving guns, mud, moonshine > and wrestling animals in a swamp. > > > > Poor democrat boys wear shirts with political causes printed on them, > hang out with Goth cutter girls and smoke cigarettes. > > > > Give a republican boy a welder and he will make a swamp buggy out of an > old VW. > > Give a democrat boy a welder and he will turn it into an objet d'art > symbolizing the military industrial oppression of the worker. > > > > And that is why there are so many apple haters here... > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Brett A Mansfield > > Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 12:43 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment > > > > I buy all of my groceries at Walmart and most of my electronics at > apple. There are a lot of apple haters on here it seems. > > > > I can walk a customer through setting up their AirPort Extreme a lot > easier than Asus, netgear, or dlink. The Apple interface never changes. > It's the same for every model. The others change their gui quite frequently. > > > > Thank you, > > Brett A Mansfield > > > >> On May 16, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> I remember telling a customer he should either learn how to configure > his AirPort himself, get AppleCare, or get a regular router like a Linksys > or Netgear with a web GUI if he expected his ISP to provide step-by-step > phone support. > >> > >> He said he would go out and buy a non-Apple router. > >> > >> He came back with a TimeMachine. > >> > >> That's another thing I hate about Apple, they have to use special names > for ordinary things, so people don't compare prices. So you don't have a > router, you have an AirPort. You don't have an external hard drive, you > have a TimeMachine. > >> > >> But just like some people only shop at WalMart, some people only shop > for electronics at the Apple Store. Probably the same people who buy all > their groceries at Whole Foods. > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- From: Bill Prince > >> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 1:06 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment > >> > >> No doubt. > >> > >> The least they could do is to give it a web GUI. Beyond me why it has to > >> be some proprietary interface. > >> > >> bp > >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > >> > >>>> On 5/16/2015 10:37 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > >>>> On 5/16/15 10:17, Bill Prince wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Plus, for reasons that are not clear to me, Apple has to change the > way > >>>> the stupid AirPort admin tool works every month or two. So even if you > >>>> knew how to set it up in August; come September it's a whole new ball > game. > >>> > >>> > >>> Software developers need to do something. > >>> > >>> ~Seth > > > > >
