Sorry, make that some of  the brightest guys I  have known were Apple dudes.  
My fingers had to be put in manual  override mode to type that.

From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 2:17 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment

I agree that some of the brightest network guys I have knows were  PC dudes.   
We had apple II and Lisa in college for assembly language but quickly switched 
to PCs for the rest of the  program.  I have never been proficient with an 
Apple past the Apple IIe product line.   Never owned a Mac.  I am sure I would 
like them too if I had to become proficient.  But for me, it is kinda like 
Miracle Whip vs Mayo.  I am a Miracle Whip kinda guy.  

From: Daniel White 
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 2:10 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment

Actually I find the whole thing funny.

 

Most SysAdmins/Network admins/programmers I know use Mac’s since its core is 
built on Unix.  But I hated supporting it during my WISP days too.

 

I just bought a brand new Dell though, but have an iPad Air and an iPhone 5s.  
What does that make me *dazed and confused*?

 

I also have a RB2011 as my home router and a Ubnt UniFi AP AC as my home Wi-Fi. 
 I am weird lol.

 

Daniel White

(303) 746-3590

 

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 2:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment

 

Nothing personal intended. I apply it equally to all Apple users.



-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

 


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From: "Brett A Mansfield" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 2:51:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment

Guys, there is no need for personal attacks here. I thought this was a friendly 
debate. How about we agree to disagree. 

Thank you,

Brett A Mansfield


On May 16, 2015, at 1:20 PM, joseph marsh <[email protected]> wrote:

  You got that right!!!
  On May 16, 2015 2:16 PM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote:
  >
  > The only thing that works best on Apple products are idiots.
  >
  >
  >
  > -----
  > Mike Hammett
  > Intelligent Computing Solutions
  > http://www.ics-il.com
  >
  > ________________________________
  > From: "Brett A Mansfield" <[email protected]>
  > To: [email protected]
  > Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 2:11:41 PM
  >
  > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment
  >
  > I'm the farthest right wing conservative you're likely to ever meet, not 
rich but not poor, and white. I only use PC if there is an absolute reason for 
it...and that is extremely rare. All of the best networking tools work best on 
mac.
  >
  > Thank you,
  > Brett A Mansfield
  >
  > > On May 16, 2015, at 12:56 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
  > > 
  > > Apples, (black)Lincolns and Birkenstocks are for rich liberal democrats.
  > > 
  > > PCs (specifically Dells), white Cadillacs and Ostrich Boots are for rich 
conservative republicans.
  > > 
  > > Republican boys like to date democrat girls but marry republican girls 
(and later cheat with democrat divorcees).
  > > 
  > > Democrat girls like to date democrat boys but they are all too poor and 
stoned and majoring in liberal arts or political science.
  > > 
  > > Republican girls just run around with each other getting drunk until some 
republican boy sobers up enough to ask them for marriage.
  > > 
  > > Poor republican boys get reality shows involving guns, mud, moonshine and 
wrestling animals in a swamp.
  > > 
  > > Poor democrat boys wear shirts with political causes printed on them, 
hang out with Goth cutter girls and smoke cigarettes.
  > > 
  > > Give a republican boy a welder and he will make a swamp buggy out  of an 
old VW.
  > > Give a democrat boy a welder and he will turn it into an objet d'art 
symbolizing the military industrial oppression of the worker.
  > > 
  > > And that  is why there are so many apple haters here...
  > > 
  > > -----Original Message----- From: Brett A Mansfield
  > > Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 12:43 PM
  >
  > > To: [email protected]
  > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment
  > > 
  > > I buy all of my groceries at Walmart and most of my electronics at apple. 
There are a lot of apple haters on here it seems.
  > > 
  > > I can walk a customer through setting up their AirPort Extreme a lot 
easier than Asus, netgear, or dlink. The Apple interface never changes. It's 
the same for every model. The others change their gui quite frequently.
  > > 
  > > Thank you,
  > > Brett A Mansfield
  > > 
  > >> On May 16, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
  > >> 
  > >> I remember telling a customer he should either learn how to configure 
his AirPort himself, get AppleCare, or get a regular router like a Linksys or 
Netgear with a web GUI if he expected his ISP to provide step-by-step phone 
support.
  > >> 
  > >> He said he would go out and buy a non-Apple router.
  > >> 
  > >> He came back with a TimeMachine.
  > >> 
  > >> That's another thing I hate about Apple, they have to use special names 
for ordinary things, so people don't compare prices.  So you don't have a 
router, you have an AirPort.  You don't have an external hard drive, you have a 
TimeMachine.
  > >> 
  > >> But just like some people only shop at WalMart, some people only shop 
for electronics at the Apple Store.  Probably the same people who buy all their 
groceries at Whole Foods.
  > >> 
  > >> 
  > >> -----Original Message----- From: Bill Prince
  > >> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 1:06 PM
  > >> To: [email protected]
  > >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer equipment
  > >> 
  > >> No doubt.
  > >> 
  > >> The least they could do is to give it a web GUI. Beyond me why it has to
  > >> be some proprietary interface.
  > >> 
  > >> bp
  > >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
  > >> 
  > >>>> On 5/16/2015 10:37 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
  > >>>> On 5/16/15 10:17, Bill Prince wrote:
  > >>>> 
  > >>>> Plus, for reasons that are not clear to me, Apple has to change the way
  > >>>> the stupid AirPort admin tool works every month or two. So even if you
  > >>>> knew how to set it up in August; come September it's a whole new ball 
game.
  > >>> 
  > >>> 
  > >>> Software developers need to do something.
  > >>> 
  > >>> ~Seth
  > > 
  >
  >

 




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