+1 what Ken said.

On 6/8/2015 10:06 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I would probably buy some, not specifically for NLOS though. We would use them where we use a CLIP now in 5 GHz. So we wouldn’t buy a ton of them, maybe 20% of 3.65 SMs. I guess it would depend on the price, if it cost $200 more than a regular SM, then we would probably tell most people sorry, you’re getting a reflector dish. But for example, I have a bare SM at a tollway oasis now that could use a little more antenna gain, but with the mounting restrictions, we can’t use a reflector dish (it’s an MTOW attached to the privacy fence on the rooftop). I would go back and put an integrated panel there if one was available, because it is a business customer and the extra margin would be worth the money.
*From:* Matt Mangriotis <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Monday, June 08, 2015 9:18 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

Couple of things…

We are definitely looking into putting the 3.65 PMP 450 SM into a high gain panel in order to provide a solution (that’s not an offset reflector). We feel like this could represent the right balance between gain and directionality to increase the chances of working better in near and Non-LOS situations.

We believe that this could be approved under our existing FCC grant. I don’t have a timeline on this yet… but is there interest in this from you guys?

Also, the 5 GHz PMP 450i was certified for 5.8 GHz under 15.247.

Matt

*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Sunday, June 07, 2015 10:38 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

But what about new equipment authorizations? I think the timing in the 450i was to get it in before the old 5 GHz rules turned into a pumpkin. I’m wondering if it is still possible to get new or modified equipment approved under Part 90.

Actually, I’ll have to read the test report on the 450i to see if they went with 15.247 or 15.407 for 5.7 GHz.

*From:*George Skorup <mailto:[email protected]>

*Sent:*Sunday, June 07, 2015 10:00 PM

*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

Yes, I remember Steve saying that. Equipment can still be manufactured, sold and used under Part 90, if you have the NN license anyway.

On 6/7/2015 6:48 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:

    I think Steve Coran said on the WISPA list that new equipment can
    still be certified for the old rules at this point... but I'm not
    completely certain that I'm remembering that right.

    On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        It’s still a question I don’t know the answer to.  If any 3650
        equipment manufacturer, even Mercury or Telrad, wanted to
release some new hardware variant at this point, could they? Or are equipment approvals in the same boat as NN licenses?

        *From:*George Skorup <mailto:[email protected]>

        *Sent:*Sunday, June 07, 2015 5:40 PM

        *To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

        *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

        I think the 450i is only going to be 5GHz.

        We'd probably be better off asking WB or KP to make us a 3GHz
        panel for use with the connectorized SM. Or... maybe a slant
        SuperStinger so we don't have to buy the more expensive
        connectorized SM. That didn't work out so well for 2.4, but
        maybe 3.6 is possible?

        On 6/7/2015 5:18 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

            I should know the answer, but is there going to be an
            integrated panel version of the 3.65 GHz SM?

            My real question, I guess, is whether new equipment
            approvals can go through under the old Part 90 rules?  Or
            has the FCC essentially frozen the equipment market in
            that band for the next year or so?  An integrated 12-15
            inch diamond shaped panel would have been nice, although
            I’d probably settle for some better choices of external
            dual slant panels that don’t cost an arm and a leg but
            also aren’t junk.

            Maybe something like this, except it doesn’t seem to
            actually exist in real life, and judging from other Mars
            panels, would be way too expensive:

            http://www.mars-antennas.com/MA-WA36-DP19

            *From:*Matt Mangriotis
            <mailto:[email protected]>

            *Sent:*Friday, May 29, 2015 3:33 PM

            *To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

            *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

            Regarding /official/ launch and availability… the PMP 450i
            is scheduled to be publicly announced and officially
            released in July.  We will have several sets of Beta test
            and demo equipment around in late June, so you’ll be
            seeing it around more at that time.

            Matt

            *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *David
            *Sent:* Friday, May 29, 2015 2:39 PM
            *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

            Its too bad I did not get 150 of those instead of the
            regular ones.
            next batch I will get a few of em to let our techs
            install. They are already
            had a heads up about this and have been waiting for me to
            order them.

            On 05/29/2015 02:10 PM, Matt Mangriotis wrote:

                Nah… if it were, it would be the i450.

                The “i” is very special and means different things to
                different folks…  this thing is much more than just
                “integrated”. It’s the next generation of hardware,
                and brings more performance to the table (both
                physical and RF).

                Keep the questions coming.

                Matt

                On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Mike Hammett
                <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                    It's made by Apple.



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                    Mike Hammett
                    Intelligent Computing Solutions
                    http://www.ics-il.com

                    
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                    *From: *"Adam Moffett" <[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>>
                    *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                    *Sent: *Friday, May 29, 2015 1:56:09 PM
                    *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

                    So....the "i" is for "integrated" antenna?
                    Or is there something more special about it?


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