As much as I hate revive a dead and controversial thread but I have to ask; what cameras do you use around your house?

Chuck Hogg wrote:
I regularly carry my KelTec P3AT, looks like a cell phone in my pocket. It doesn't have a safety, but I don't carry it with a round chambered. I'm in a pretty rural farming area, and there are a lot of migrant workers. With that has brought more burglary type of crime. The standard to do is go knock on all the doors. If nobody answers, they break in. My office is in the front of my house, and I have had this encounter 4 times since living there about 9 years. The last 2 times I have walked out gun in hand. It's interesting, they only turn around and don't even get out of the car. I know what they are there for and so do they. I also have cameras all over my property, so I know when people come and go.

Regards,
Chuck

On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Christopher Tyler <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    It's not a US thing...

    http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0777958.html

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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Sean Heskett" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 8:42:11 AM
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WAY OT: Concealed Carry handguns - which to
    buy and why

    Sometimes I just like stirring the pot ;)

    I'm not saying one way is better or worse.  BUT our current system
    obviously seems to be failing because we are the only 1st world
    country
    with a mass shooting problem of this magnitude.

    -Sean

    On Monday, December 7, 2015, George Skorup <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    > So then you'll take your guns to the police or sheriff and tell
    them you
    > don't need them anymore?
    >
    > On 12/7/2015 9:43 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
    >
    > Australia had a gun problem...until it didn't anymore.
    >
    > Just sayin
    >
    > -Sean
    >
    >
    > On Monday, December 7, 2015, Chuck McCown <
    > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>');>[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>');>> wrote:
    >
    >> On the assault rifle issue, are we just arguing about magazine
    size?
    >>
    >> Or does it need a handle on top and a pistol grip?
    >> How does a BAR differ from an AR?  Assuming they are the same
    caliber.
    >> BAR is OK because it only shoots deer, but the AR is for
    shooting people?
    >> Wood stock good, green metal and plastic bad?
    >>
    >> Semi automatic deer hunting rifles are OK, right?
    >>
    >> Is this a distinction without a difference?
    >>
    >> *From:* Sean Heskett
    >> *Sent:* Monday, December 07, 2015 3:31 PM
    >> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WAY OT: Concealed Carry handguns - which
    to buy
    >> and why
    >>
    >> i have a Glock23 .40cal works great but it's not quite a
    "conceal carry"
    >> size.  I have it (unloaded and trigger locked) in my survival
    pack that
    >> stays in my airplane incase of an emergency landing in the back
    country ;-)
    >>
    >> i'm also a Progressive Libtard (registered independent) that
    thinks we
    >> should ban assault rifles and large magazines just as we have
    banned hand
    >> grenades, bombs, rocket launchers and other military
    style/grade weapons.
    >> I've had my Hunter's safety card since I was 12 and I also went
    to high
    >> school next to Columbine in CO.  My younger sister had friends
    who died in
    >> the attack.
    >>
    >> 2 cents.
    >>
    >> -Sean
    >>
    >>
    >> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 3:01 PM, James Howard
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>');>> wrote:
    >>
    >>> It wasn’t just the backstrap that bothered me.  Mostly the diamond
    >>> pattern just didn’t feel good in my hands.  I just did a bit
    of looking now
    >>> though and it looks like there are some options for fixing
    that.  I might
    >>> have to look into them again.  I really like the Sig P938 so
    far though.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> I missed your comment about Glock fanboys. Shocking we haven’t
    had any
    >>> so far but the thread devolved into politics from a simple
    question of what
    >>> brand/model of pistol we like.  For the record, I’ve yet to
    meet a Glock
    >>> that I’d want to own.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
    >>> *Sent:* Monday, December 07, 2015 11:08 AM
    >>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>');>
    >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WAY OT: Concealed Carry handguns -
    which to buy
    >>> and why
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> XDS has replaceable grip backstraps.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 11:04 AM, James Howard
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>');>> wrote:
    >>>
>>> Sig P938 is 9mm and almost exactly the same size as a P238. I’ve got
    >>> the SAS model (anti snag).  I’ve also got a S&W M&P Shield in
    9mm and have
    >>> looked at the Springfield XDS many times.  I just can’t get
    over the fact
    >>> that I don’t like the grips on the XDS. Prime reason to go
    with the XDS is
    >>> that you can get it in 45ACP.  There are a lot of cheaper
    brands out there
    >>> too.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> If you have a place where you can do it, go and test fire all the
    >>> different options.  My father-in-law bought a Glock 36 because
    several
    >>> people told him how great they were.  The problem is that it
    doesn’t fit
    >>> his hand well at all and the trigger digs into his finger so
    he shoots
    >>> terrible with it.  His accuracy is greatly improved using my
    M&P Shield.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> No matter what you get though.  A major key to carrying it
    safely is
    >>> practice and being comfortable with it.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>');>] *On Behalf Of *Simon
    >>> Westlake
    >>> *Sent:* Monday, December 07, 2015 10:09 AM
    >>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>');>
    >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WAY OT: Concealed Carry handguns -
    which to buy
    >>> and why
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> That was one thing I forgot to mention with the P238.. it has
    a manual
    >>> safety as well, if that's important to you. I personally don't
    really care,
    >>> but it's another good point.
    >>>
    >>> On 12/7/2015 10:07 AM, Jeremy wrote:
    >>>
    >>> A lot of people are carrying a gun that has no safety.  The
    safety is
    >>> released by squeezing the trigger, essentially.  I have kids,
    and although
    >>> I plan to keep my gun far away from them, I cannot on a clear
    conscience
    >>> carry a gun with no safety.  I have been considering a
    revolver.  My bro
    >>> has a CC and he recommends something smaller, so it doesn't
    jab you in the
    >>> side whenever you sit down.  I am still looking for the right
    gun for a
    >>> CC.  I've already had a gun pulled on my at a job.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Paul McCall <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>');>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>> I am getting my CC permit (Florida) in a week or so.  I took an
    >>> absolutely excellent class from the main trainer at the
    Brevard county
    >>> sheriff’s office.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Now, I am looking for an excellent CC gun to use, as my long
    barrel Colt
    >>> 38 is not a good fit for that.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> I am certain that this group probably has a LOT of expertise
    (and many
    >>> opinions) on THE gun to use.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> J
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
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    >>>
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    >>>
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    >>>
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    >>>
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    >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
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    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
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    >>>
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