lol, actually UBNT and the hardware based NVR.

Regards,
Chuck

On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 12:17 AM, Jay Weekley <[email protected]>
wrote:

> As much as I hate revive a dead and controversial thread but I have to
> ask; what cameras do you use around your house?
>
> Chuck Hogg wrote:
>
>> I regularly carry my KelTec P3AT, looks like a cell phone in my pocket.
>> It doesn't have a safety, but I don't carry it with a round chambered.  I'm
>> in a pretty rural farming area, and there are a lot of migrant workers.
>> With that has brought more burglary type of crime.  The standard to do is
>> go knock on all the doors.  If nobody answers, they break in.  My office is
>> in the front of my house, and I have had this encounter 4 times since
>> living there about 9 years.  The last 2 times I have walked out gun in
>> hand.  It's interesting, they only turn around and don't even get out of
>> the car.  I know what they are there for and so do they.  I also have
>> cameras all over my property, so I know when people come and go.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chuck
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Christopher Tyler <
>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>     It's not a US thing...
>>
>>     http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0777958.html
>>
>>     --
>>     Christopher Tyler
>>     MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
>>     Total Highspeed Internet Services
>>     417.851.1107 <tel:417.851.1107>
>>
>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>     From: "Sean Heskett" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>     To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>     Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 8:42:11 AM
>>     Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WAY OT: Concealed Carry handguns - which to
>>     buy and why
>>
>>     Sometimes I just like stirring the pot ;)
>>
>>     I'm not saying one way is better or worse.  BUT our current system
>>     obviously seems to be failing because we are the only 1st world
>>     country
>>     with a mass shooting problem of this magnitude.
>>
>>     -Sean
>>
>>     On Monday, December 7, 2015, George Skorup <[email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>     > So then you'll take your guns to the police or sheriff and tell
>>     them you
>>     > don't need them anymore?
>>     >
>>     > On 12/7/2015 9:43 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>>     >
>>     > Australia had a gun problem...until it didn't anymore.
>>     >
>>     > Just sayin
>>     >
>>     > -Sean
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > On Monday, December 7, 2015, Chuck McCown <
>>     > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]>');>[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>     > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected] <mailto:
>> [email protected]>');>> wrote:
>>     >
>>     >> On the assault rifle issue, are we just arguing about magazine
>>     size?
>>     >>
>>     >> Or does it need a handle on top and a pistol grip?
>>     >> How does a BAR differ from an AR?  Assuming they are the same
>>     caliber.
>>     >> BAR is OK because it only shoots deer, but the AR is for
>>     shooting people?
>>     >> Wood stock good, green metal and plastic bad?
>>     >>
>>     >> Semi automatic deer hunting rifles are OK, right?
>>     >>
>>     >> Is this a distinction without a difference?
>>     >>
>>     >> *From:* Sean Heskett
>>     >> *Sent:* Monday, December 07, 2015 3:31 PM
>>     >> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>     >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WAY OT: Concealed Carry handguns - which
>>     to buy
>>     >> and why
>>     >>
>>     >> i have a Glock23 .40cal works great but it's not quite a
>>     "conceal carry"
>>     >> size.  I have it (unloaded and trigger locked) in my survival
>>     pack that
>>     >> stays in my airplane incase of an emergency landing in the back
>>     country ;-)
>>     >>
>>     >> i'm also a Progressive Libtard (registered independent) that
>>     thinks we
>>     >> should ban assault rifles and large magazines just as we have
>>     banned hand
>>     >> grenades, bombs, rocket launchers and other military
>>     style/grade weapons.
>>     >> I've had my Hunter's safety card since I was 12 and I also went
>>     to high
>>     >> school next to Columbine in CO.  My younger sister had friends
>>     who died in
>>     >> the attack.
>>     >>
>>     >> 2 cents.
>>     >>
>>     >> -Sean
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 3:01 PM, James Howard
>>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>     >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]>');>> wrote:
>>     >>
>>     >>> It wasn’t just the backstrap that bothered me.  Mostly the diamond
>>     >>> pattern just didn’t feel good in my hands.  I just did a bit
>>     of looking now
>>     >>> though and it looks like there are some options for fixing
>>     that.  I might
>>     >>> have to look into them again.  I really like the Sig P938 so
>>     far though.
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>> I missed your comment about Glock fanboys. Shocking we haven’t
>>     had any
>>     >>> so far but the thread devolved into politics from a simple
>>     question of what
>>     >>> brand/model of pistol we like.  For the record, I’ve yet to
>>     meet a Glock
>>     >>> that I’d want to own.
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
>>     >>> *Sent:* Monday, December 07, 2015 11:08 AM
>>     >>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>');>
>>     >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WAY OT: Concealed Carry handguns -
>>     which to buy
>>     >>> and why
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>> XDS has replaceable grip backstraps.
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 11:04 AM, James Howard
>>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>     >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]>');>> wrote:
>>     >>>
>>     >>> Sig P938 is 9mm and almost exactly the same size as a P238.
>>  I’ve got
>>     >>> the SAS model (anti snag).  I’ve also got a S&W M&P Shield in
>>     9mm and have
>>     >>> looked at the Springfield XDS many times.  I just can’t get
>>     over the fact
>>     >>> that I don’t like the grips on the XDS. Prime reason to go
>>     with the XDS is
>>     >>> that you can get it in 45ACP.  There are a lot of cheaper
>>     brands out there
>>     >>> too.
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>> If you have a place where you can do it, go and test fire all the
>>     >>> different options.  My father-in-law bought a Glock 36 because
>>     several
>>     >>> people told him how great they were.  The problem is that it
>>     doesn’t fit
>>     >>> his hand well at all and the trigger digs into his finger so
>>     he shoots
>>     >>> terrible with it.  His accuracy is greatly improved using my
>>     M&P Shield.
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>> No matter what you get though.  A major key to carrying it
>>     safely is
>>     >>> practice and being comfortable with it.
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>>     >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]>');>] *On Behalf Of *Simon
>>     >>> Westlake
>>     >>> *Sent:* Monday, December 07, 2015 10:09 AM
>>     >>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>');>
>>     >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WAY OT: Concealed Carry handguns -
>>     which to buy
>>     >>> and why
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>> That was one thing I forgot to mention with the P238.. it has
>>     a manual
>>     >>> safety as well, if that's important to you. I personally don't
>>     really care,
>>     >>> but it's another good point.
>>     >>>
>>     >>> On 12/7/2015 10:07 AM, Jeremy wrote:
>>     >>>
>>     >>> A lot of people are carrying a gun that has no safety.  The
>>     safety is
>>     >>> released by squeezing the trigger, essentially.  I have kids,
>>     and although
>>     >>> I plan to keep my gun far away from them, I cannot on a clear
>>     conscience
>>     >>> carry a gun with no safety.  I have been considering a
>>     revolver.  My bro
>>     >>> has a CC and he recommends something smaller, so it doesn't
>>     jab you in the
>>     >>> side whenever you sit down.  I am still looking for the right
>>     gun for a
>>     >>> CC.  I've already had a gun pulled on my at a job.
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Paul McCall <[email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>>     >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]>');>> wrote:
>>     >>>
>>     >>> I am getting my CC permit (Florida) in a week or so.  I took an
>>     >>> absolutely excellent class from the main trainer at the
>>     Brevard county
>>     >>> sheriff’s office.
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>> Now, I am looking for an excellent CC gun to use, as my long
>>     barrel Colt
>>     >>> 38 is not a good fit for that.
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>> I am certain that this group probably has a LOT of expertise
>>     (and many
>>     >>> opinions) on THE gun to use.
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>> J
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>> Paul McCall, Pres.
>>     >>>
>>     >>> PDMNet / Florida Broadband
>>     >>>
>>     >>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>>     >>>
>>     >>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>>     >>>
>>     >>> 772-564-6800 <tel:772-564-6800> office
>>     >>>
>>     >>> 772-473-0352 <tel:772-473-0352> cell
>>     >>>
>>     >>> <http://www.pdmnet.com/>www.pdmnet.com <http://www.pdmnet.com>
>>     >>>
>>     >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]>');>
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>> --
>>     >>>
>>     >>> Simon Westlake
>>     >>>
>>     >>> Skype: Simon_Sonar
>>     >>>
>>     >>> Email: [email protected]
>>     >>>
>>     >>> Phone: (702) 447-1247 <tel:%28702%29%20447-1247>
>>     >>>
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