Fraud.  I would think law enforcement might help, but then you lose a (bad) 
customer.  
But then again, law enforcement around here is not really interested in this 
kind of stuff I have discovered.  
  From: Mark Radabaugh 
  Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 7:12 AM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Auditing IPpay

  What really pisses me off is the lusers that figure out that a EFT 
transaction always authorizes then bounces a couple of days later, so they give 
you a bogus account to get service turned back on until the check bounces.   
The bank doesn’t charge them because they made up the account in the first 
place, but we still get the $10 fee from the bank.   Not only did they not pay 
the bill, they cost us fees. 

  There is a whole list of people we won’t accept EFT’s from anymore.

  Mark




    On Jan 15, 2016, at 6:58 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> 
wrote:

    That may be the case, but there's no way I could really begin to track 
that.  We do card transactions daily.  If I try to compare Powercode's 
transaction list to Chase my eyes would get dizzy, especially if you throw in 
delayed transactions from some days.


    Josh Luthman
    Office: 937-552-2340
    Direct: 937-552-2343
    1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373

    On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Cameron Crum <[email protected]> wrote:

      You may have a couple cards that took longer to settle too. I'd check 
again tomorrow or Monday and see if the money shows up. The vast majority of 
time, we see funding in 48hrs, but sometimes it is longer. 



      On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Josh Luthman 
<[email protected]> wrote:

        We do minimal ACH, but I definitely appreciate the heads up =) 

        We get (or at least used to...) an email when an NSF happens.  Haven't 
seen that in quite some time, but we also quit doing ACH and probably have 3-5 
customers using it.



        Josh Luthman
        Office: 937-552-2340
        Direct: 937-552-2343
        1100 Wayne St
        Suite 1337
        Troy, OH 45373


        On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 6:43 PM, Cameron Crum <[email protected]> wrote:

          One thing you might check is make sure the ACH charges actually went 
through if you have them. IPPay will get an approval from the bank and give 
your system the approval, but if the funds are NSF on the day they draw the 
transaction will reverse. There is no mechanism for IPPay to report that via 
their API so it is up to the end user to check their IPPay report. Just an 
idea.  



          On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
<[email protected]> wrote:

            That’s around what I was told and am expecting.



            I’ll have to check the numbers again to make sure.



            From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
            Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 11:38 AM


            To: [email protected]
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Auditing IPpay



            I've done fees/total charge and it was 1.99-2.01% I believe






            Josh Luthman
            Office: 937-552-2340
            Direct: 937-552-2343
            1100 Wayne St
            Suite 1337
            Troy, OH 45373



            On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
<[email protected]> wrote:

              Yes, I see that.



              So I should be able to audit what Platypus/IPPay says was 
charged, with what goes into the bank account directly.

              There are functions for doing that within Platypus, I just 
haven’t used them in years J



              Maybe I’m not so concerned about that as much as I’m wondering if 
the IPPay fees, and merchant fees are on par with the rate I think I’m supposed 
to be getting.







              From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
              Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 11:26 AM
              To: [email protected]
              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Auditing IPpay



              Merchant fees come out as their own charge at the end of the 
month.  You should receive 100% of what you charge.






              Josh Luthman
              Office: 937-552-2340
              Direct: 937-552-2343
              1100 Wayne St
              Suite 1337
              Troy, OH 45373



              On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                I’m wondering the same thing for Platypus billing.



                At times it seems the merchant fees are a lot higher that I 
thought they would be looking at the raw incoming in our QuickBooks and the 
monthly outgoing line item for IPPay and AMEX etc.



                From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
                Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 10:39 AM
                To: [email protected]
                Subject: [AFMUG] Auditing IPpay



                Does anyone do any sort of checking to make sure what you 
charge in billing (ie Powercode) actually shows up in your account (ie Chase)?  
I don't suspect anything, but the thought occurred after I saw we're short $500 
today from what we charged in cards on the 13th.




                Josh Luthman
                Office: 937-552-2340
                Direct: 937-552-2343
                1100 Wayne St
                Suite 1337
                Troy, OH 45373









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