Agreed. If you're lazy about managing your network, you won't need those tools. 




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----- Original Message -----

From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:34:50 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Single homed to multi, full partial or default route ? 




If you do all that, cool. 

Otherwise, it could be like my college roommate who asked an athlete his 
secrets. The athlete told him to work out at the gym 4 hours a day, eat protein 
supplements, and drink grapefruit juice. The first two sounded like too much 
work, so my roommate drank grapefruit juice. 





From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:13 AM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Single homed to multi, full partial or default route ? 


True, but in most situations, more information allows for better control. You 
could use the table (combined with flows) to see that you have a problem with 
upstream A and carrier B. You could then use a BGP community to tell upstream A 
not to announce your routes to carrier B. You could then filter routes from 
carrier B via Upstream A. Upstream A may then send your traffic to carrier C or 
you may determine that a better path is via upstream D. Can't do that without 
full tables. 




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----- Original Message -----

From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:49:09 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Single homed to multi, full partial or default route ? 




If you just use the shortest AS path, not sure that is really taking control. 
I’m thinking of a scenario where you have one cheap upstream and one high 
quality upstream that monitors for interconnection problems like packet loss 
and latency and tweaks their routing table. I don’t think BGP will automate 
those decisions for you. But if the cheap upstream has direct peering or 
colocated servers from a bunch of CDNs, might as well send that outbound 
traffic to them. 





From: Paul Stewart 
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 5:34 AM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Single homed to multi, full partial or default route ? 



Would suggest full routes everytime if possible .. depends on how much control 
you want over your paths though .. 



From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cassidy B. Larson 
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 9:24 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Single homed to multi, full partial or default route ? 

I’d just request local + customer routes + peer routes and a default from your 
upstreams. If it’s more than 3 AS hops away it’s probably a toss up which way 
is better to go out. 








On Jan 21, 2016, at 7:14 PM, TJ Trout < [email protected] > wrote: 


I'm a complete idiot and I just turned up 2 upstreams, butch Evans will be 
setting up the bgp, he said I can take full routes, partial router /20 and 
larger or default routes, anyone able to tell me the best choice and the pros 
and cons of each ? 
Thanks a million 




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