Dude, don't do that. LMR600. We buy it by the thousands of feet. It is much easier to run, less prone to damage, and equivalent in loss per frequency range.
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 4:09 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote: > Andrew 1/2 Heliax > On Feb 10, 2016 2:33 PM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: > >> That's most helpful! Do you have any idea what kind of cable that was? >> I'm assuming anything that will handle 1600 MHz with minimal loss will work? >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Sam Kirsch <sam...@plexicomm.net> wrote: >> >>> Yeah, I spoke to my field guy, he said they took an SMB <-> N Connector >>> and ran LMR to the roof. Hope that helps. >>> >>> >>> >>> *-- Samuel Kirsch, Network SupportPlexicomm - Internet Solutions | >>> www.plexicomm.net <http://www.plexicomm.net>* >>> *Office: 1.866.759.4678 x109 <1.866.759.4678%20x109> | Fax: >>> 1.866.852.4688 <1.866.852.4688>* >>> *Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713 <1.866.759.9713> | >>> sam...@plexicomm.net <sam...@plexicomm.net>* >>> >>> >>> >>> ------ Original Message ------ >>> From: "TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com> >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Sent: 2/9/2016 9:42:37 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender" >>> >>> >>> It's an SMB connector, but again I find it really had to believe that if >>> you stick it outside until you get a good sync and power it down that it >>> won't resync indoors, I've never tried inside of a nuclear bunker, but in >>> normal houses and offices with tile and metal roofs I've never had one >>> issue. >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 6:39 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Yeah. Something like that. All I recall is it was ~~ 1/4" or so in >>>> diameter. Don't quote me on that. I am disavowing all knowledge. >>>> >>>> bp >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2/9/2016 6:37 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>> >>>> MCM as in MMC? Like MMCX? >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> On Feb 9, 2016 9:34 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The Verizon cell extender (made by Samsung) has a little connector >>>>> (don't recall the type, but it's about the size of MCM or so). Put a wire >>>>> on the end of the coax, and you're there. >>>>> >>>>> bp >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2/9/2016 10:33 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>> >>>>> How did you get a GPS antenna from the roof to the SCS box? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 1:28 PM, samuel <sam...@plexicomm.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Verizon's Samsung SCS series 3G and 4G Network Extender is what I was >>>>>> dealing with. We had to run our own GPS antenna from the roof down to >>>>>> the >>>>>> basement to get the damn thing to sync properly. >>>>>> >>>>>> As an aside, I didn't realize the Low E windows were code now, and >>>>>> this is a very newly renovated building. Will keep that in mind! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- Sam Kirsch, Network Tech Support >>>>>> Plexicomm Internet Solutions >>>>>> Office: 1.866.759.4678 x109 | Fax: 1.866.852.4688 >>>>>> >>>>>> <sam...@plexicomm.net>sam...@plexicomm.net | Emergency Support: >>>>>> 1.866.759.9713 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: "Jaime Solorza" < <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >>>>>> To: "Animal Farm" < <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com> >>>>>> Date: 02/09/16 10:39 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender" >>>>>> >>>>>> cell booster or gps booster? >>>>>> >>>>>> Jaime Solorza >>>>>> Wireless Systems Architect >>>>>> 915-861-1390 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 8:15 AM, Sam Kirsch <sam...@plexicomm.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pull out a GPS App on your phone and make sure you can actually read >>>>>>> the satellites from behind the window (I used 'GPS Test' on Android). We >>>>>>> had to install one of these boosters and were troubleshooting why the >>>>>>> damn >>>>>>> thing wasn't working when I noticed that my phone GPS receiver was >>>>>>> working >>>>>>> in rooms where the windows were open and not working in rooms where the >>>>>>> windows were closed. Building management didn't even know they'd >>>>>>> purchased >>>>>>> the windows with RF film. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *-- Samuel Kirsch, Network SupportPlexicomm - Internet Solutions | >>>>>>> <http://www.plexicomm.net/>www.plexicomm.net >>>>>>> <http://www.plexicomm.net/>* >>>>>>> *Office: 1.866.759.4678 x109 | Fax: 1.866.852.4688* >>>>>>> *Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713 | <sam...@plexicomm.net> >>>>>>> <sam...@plexicomm.net>sam...@plexicomm.net <sam...@plexicomm.net>* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>>>> From: "Adam Moffett" < <dmmoff...@gmail.com>dmmoff...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> To: <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com >>>>>>> Sent: 2/9/2016 9:50:42 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It might not be just a matter of getting the location. If they use >>>>>>> the 1pps clock from GPS to calibrate an oscillator before they start >>>>>>> transmitting, then it would legitimately take 20-30 minutes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Telrad BTS's are like that too. Pisses me off if I ever have to >>>>>>> reset the power. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2/9/2016 12:12 AM, Jason McKemie wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For whatever reason, the receivers that they use in some of these >>>>>>> don't seem to be "modern" at all. They frequently take an excessively >>>>>>> long >>>>>>> time to get a lock. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, February 8, 2016, Eric Kuhnke < <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Modern GPS receivers work surprisingly well, if not very >>>>>>>> accurately, from inside a single floor wood framed house... My oneplus >>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>> will pick up 6 satellites while standing in a central hallway 15'+ >>>>>>>> from any >>>>>>>> window. Should be accurate enough to get a location within 75'. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All bets are off if it is a concrete framed apartment building or >>>>>>>> something like that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I still find it amazing that anything works at -162 RSL. Thanks to >>>>>>>> tiny channel size and very basic modulation. >>>>>>>> On Feb 8, 2016 6:46 PM, "Bill Prince" < >>>>>>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','part15...@gmail.com');> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Canopy NAT seems to break it with regularity. It might also fail >>>>>>>>> if the GPS location that it reports is not within a 1/4 mile of where >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> customer address is. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Also requires enough GPS (like near a window) to get a GPS lock. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> bp >>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2/8/2016 3:34 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What are the typical reasons for these not to work?� From the >>>>>>>>> user guide it appears to use IPSEC, so I assume anything that >>>>>>>>> prevents a >>>>>>>>> VPN? >>>>>>>>> � >>>>>>>>> Verizon support told the customer they needed a Class A >>>>>>>>> address.� WTF?� Did they maybe mean it *can't* be a class A >>>>>>>>> address?� Customer uses 10.x.x.x addresses internally, behind Cisco >>>>>>>>> ASA >>>>>>>>> firewall (which I don't manage). >>>>>>>>> � >>>>>>>>> I do see some udp/500 and udp/4500 packets, I think that means >>>>>>>>> something is using UDP for IPSEC NAT traversal? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>