I assumed that was sarcasm. Or maybe I mean hyperbole. In any case, I don’t think he was serious. I hope not.
From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 6:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender" Dude, don't do that. LMR600. We buy it by the thousands of feet. It is much easier to run, less prone to damage, and equivalent in loss per frequency range. On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 4:09 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> wrote: Andrew 1/2 Heliax On Feb 10, 2016 2:33 PM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> wrote: That's most helpful! Do you have any idea what kind of cable that was? I'm assuming anything that will handle 1600 MHz with minimal loss will work? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Sam Kirsch <[email protected]> wrote: Yeah, I spoke to my field guy, he said they took an SMB <-> N Connector and ran LMR to the roof. Hope that helps. -- Samuel Kirsch, Network Support Plexicomm - Internet Solutions | www.plexicomm.net Office: 1.866.759.4678 x109 | Fax: 1.866.852.4688 Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713 | [email protected] ------ Original Message ------ From: "TJ Trout" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: 2/9/2016 9:42:37 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender" It's an SMB connector, but again I find it really had to believe that if you stick it outside until you get a good sync and power it down that it won't resync indoors, I've never tried inside of a nuclear bunker, but in normal houses and offices with tile and metal roofs I've never had one issue. On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 6:39 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote: Yeah. Something like that. All I recall is it was ~~ 1/4" or so in diameter. Don't quote me on that. I am disavowing all knowledge. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 2/9/2016 6:37 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: MCM as in MMC? Like MMCX? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 9, 2016 9:34 PM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected]> wrote: The Verizon cell extender (made by Samsung) has a little connector (don't recall the type, but it's about the size of MCM or so). Put a wire on the end of the coax, and you're there. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 2/9/2016 10:33 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: How did you get a GPS antenna from the roof to the SCS box? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 1:28 PM, samuel <[email protected]> wrote: Verizon's Samsung SCS series 3G and 4G Network Extender is what I was dealing with. We had to run our own GPS antenna from the roof down to the basement to get the damn thing to sync properly. As an aside, I didn't realize the Low E windows were code now, and this is a very newly renovated building. Will keep that in mind! -- Sam Kirsch, Network Tech Support Plexicomm Internet Solutions Office: 1.866.759.4678 x109 | Fax: 1.866.852.4688 [email protected] | Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713 ------------------------------------------------------------ -----Original Message----- From: "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]> To: "Animal Farm" <[email protected]> Date: 02/09/16 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender" cell booster or gps booster? Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 8:15 AM, Sam Kirsch <[email protected]> wrote: Pull out a GPS App on your phone and make sure you can actually read the satellites from behind the window (I used 'GPS Test' on Android). We had to install one of these boosters and were troubleshooting why the damn thing wasn't working when I noticed that my phone GPS receiver was working in rooms where the windows were open and not working in rooms where the windows were closed. Building management didn't even know they'd purchased the windows with RF film. -- Samuel Kirsch, Network Support Plexicomm - Internet Solutions | www.plexicomm.net Office: 1.866.759.4678 x109 | Fax: 1.866.852.4688 Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713 | [email protected] ------ Original Message ------ From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: 2/9/2016 9:50:42 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender" It might not be just a matter of getting the location. If they use the 1pps clock from GPS to calibrate an oscillator before they start transmitting, then it would legitimately take 20-30 minutes. Telrad BTS's are like that too. Pisses me off if I ever have to reset the power. On 2/9/2016 12:12 AM, Jason McKemie wrote: For whatever reason, the receivers that they use in some of these don't seem to be "modern" at all. They frequently take an excessively long time to get a lock. On Monday, February 8, 2016, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> wrote: Modern GPS receivers work surprisingly well, if not very accurately, from inside a single floor wood framed house... My oneplus one will pick up 6 satellites while standing in a central hallway 15'+ from any window. Should be accurate enough to get a location within 75'. All bets are off if it is a concrete framed apartment building or something like that. I still find it amazing that anything works at -162 RSL. Thanks to tiny channel size and very basic modulation. On Feb 8, 2016 6:46 PM, "Bill Prince" <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> wrote: Canopy NAT seems to break it with regularity. It might also fail if the GPS location that it reports is not within a 1/4 mile of where the customer address is. Also requires enough GPS (like near a window) to get a GPS lock. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 2/8/2016 3:34 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: What are the typical reasons for these not to work?� From the user guide it appears to use IPSEC, so I assume anything that prevents a VPN? � Verizon support told the customer they needed a Class A address.� WTF?� Did they maybe mean it can't be a class A address?� Customer uses 10.x.x.x addresses internally, behind Cisco ASA firewall (which I don't manage). � I do see some udp/500 and udp/4500 packets, I think that means something is using UDP for IPSEC NAT traversal?
