The fudge packers at medicare use your SSN for the account number you
are required to write on the check.
They have no clue.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 2/19/2016 5:05 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
The last time I trusted the federal government with something very
important, they let my blood type, fingerprint, DNA, social security
number, names numbers and addresses of relatives and friends, my
wife's SSN, and all three of my kid's SSNs data get collected by a
third party.
Just an example.
On Feb 19, 2016 7:01 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
If I have a business in Tooele, Utah, I have to have “Knox Box” on
the building with a key in it for the building. The fire
department has a key for all the knox boxes. Is that much more
invasive than unlocking your phone? Nobody is screaming about
that. Happens in many cities.
If you have windows in your house, anyone can punch one out and
get into your house. But you all have windows.
Cops can pull you over with probable cause now.
Are you suggesting that if the code gets released in the wild
cops are going to engage in an illegal search using this tool?
If they are going to mess with you they will simply plant
something on you.
If this code gets into the wild and is abused in this nature, abut
50 milliseconds later there will be a new version of iOS that will
not work with it.
So, firemen can be trusted, right? More than the NSA? Drunken
fireman buddy with a cop that wants to use the knox box key can be
trusted?
The IRS can put all my banking and financial in the cloud now as
can my bank. A disgruntled employee is all it would take. The
bank and the IRS are more trustworthy than the NSA?
I don’t have any family pictures that I would be worried if they
got published. I am just not catching this paranoid cynicism
that seems to be attached to this issue.
*From:* Travis Johnson <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Friday, February 19, 2016 5:36 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple
What if this path continues, and in the future the police officer
that just pulled you over for speeding, suspects you might be up
to something else... so he then takes your phone, unlocks it from
his car, downloads everything to his laptop, and then sends it off
to be inspected? Do you want all your private information
(banking, financial, family pictures, etc.) now "in the cloud" for
anyone with access to see?
Travis
On 2/19/2016 5:23 PM, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
What is wrong with the FBI having this ability?� How does that
have a negative impact on me?
I could argue that it has a positive benefit to the nation.�
�
*From:* Travis Johnson <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Friday, February 19, 2016 5:15 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple
�
I don't think that's the case.... do you really see the FBI
turning the phone over to Apple? What happens if Apple comes back
a week later and says "oops, sorry... we nuked it". The FBI wants
Apple to write a new IOS version that will not erase the phone
after 10 attempts at the login code. Then the FBI would load that
onto the phone, and attempt to brute force the phone combo.
At that point, the FBI could do that to any phone in the future
as well.
Apple is doing the right thing here.
Travis
On 2/19/2016 4:05 PM, George Skorup wrote:
As I understand it, that is exactly what the gov is asking them
for. FBI wants Apple to decrypt and send over the data. Nothing
more. No "software on every phone" to do this. Just that ONE
phone. Get the data, then incinerate the device.
On 2/19/2016 4:59 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
But they're not actually asking for a back door, are they?�
They're just saying 'hey, we have this physical device, can we
give it to you, and you get us the data off of it'?� I've got
to think that the Engineers at apple have a way to do this
thought up.�
Although at the same time, If they're trying to unlock the
phone, couldn't the Gov't with it's vast resources, just simply
make a bit by bit copy of the flash chip in the phone and just
go through and try every unlock code?
On 2/19/2016 4:54 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
Yup. Google agrees as well.
On Feb 19, 2016 4:52 PM, "Sam Lambie" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Screw the govt. Apple is doing entirely doing the right
thing.
�
On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Nate Burke
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
My Boss and I just had a discussion about this, he
think that Cook should be in Jail for failing to
comply with the order.�
�
On 2/19/2016 4:46 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
... What?
Seriously?
On Feb 19, 2016 4:44 PM, <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Treason?
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