Because terrorism! On Friday, February 19, 2016, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
> "I'm pretty convinced this is *not* about getting the data off of that > phone, and more about using this event as leverage to force apple to give > the government tools to be able to do this with any phone." > > > That's exactly what this is. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Forrest Christian (List Account)" <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> > *To: *"af" <[email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> > *Sent: *Friday, February 19, 2016 5:40:51 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple > > The technically-minded articles I've read pretty much agree with this, and > then some. > > The FBI wants them to develop a *special release* of iOS which will allow > the government to bypass the security on a phone. This isn't a 'here > apple, get us the data off of the phone' thing. This is a 'you are > required to develop the tools to hack a phone and give them to us' issue. > At the point the FBI has access to those tools, it pretty much undermines > all of the security built into the phone. Apple is saying 'we're not > going to do any such thing'. > > And then, the government is saying to the press: "All we want is the data > off this phone and Apple is refusing". At which the public says 'apple > should help the government decrypt the phone'. To which the government is > saying: "They've done it before, why not now?". What they don't realize > is that apple fixed it such that even they don't have the correct tools to > do so. > > I'm pretty convinced this is *not* about getting the data off of that > phone, and more about using this event as leverage to force apple to give > the government tools to be able to do this with any phone. > > -forrest > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Jeremy Grip <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > >> My understanding--and Apple's representation--is that no one at Apple >> actually has the tools to do this. If they develop that ability in house >> then a human or humans then have those tools. This is then a de facto >> compromise of the security, humans being notoriously susceptible to >> corruption. What was that Machiavelli said about power?And possession of >> those tools is a lot of power. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Feb 19, 2016, at 6:05 PM, George Skorup <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >> >> As I understand it, that is exactly what the gov is asking them for. FBI >> wants Apple to decrypt and send over the data. Nothing more. No "software >> on every phone" to do this. Just that ONE phone. Get the data, then >> incinerate the device. >> >> On 2/19/2016 4:59 PM, Nate Burke wrote: >> >> But they're not actually asking for a back door, are they?� They're >> just saying 'hey, we have this physical device, can we give it to you, and >> you get us the data off of it'?� I've got to think that the Engineers at >> apple have a way to do this thought up.� >> >> Although at the same time, If they're trying to unlock the phone, >> couldn't the Gov't with it's vast resources, just simply make a bit by bit >> copy of the flash chip in the phone and just go through and try every >> unlock code? >> >> On 2/19/2016 4:54 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >> >> Yup. Google agrees as well. >> On Feb 19, 2016 4:52 PM, "Sam Lambie" <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >> >>> Screw the govt. Apple is doing entirely doing the right thing. >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Nate Burke < >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>[email protected] >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >>> >>>> My Boss and I just had a discussion about this, he think that Cook >>>> should be in Jail for failing to comply with the order.� >>>> >>>> On 2/19/2016 4:46 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >>>> >>>> ... What? >>>> >>>> Seriously? >>>> On Feb 19, 2016 4:44 PM, <[email protected] >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Treason? >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> *Sam Lambie* >>> Taosnet Wireless Tech. >>> 575-758-7598 Office >>> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com> >>> >> >> >> > > > -- > *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.* > Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602 > [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> | > http://www.packetflux.com > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian> <http://facebook.com/packetflux> > <http://twitter.com/@packetflux> > > >
