When I was in college, my student ID was my SSN. Same for everyone.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 6:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple
The fudge packers at medicare use your SSN for the account number you are
required to write on the check.
They have no clue.
bp
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On 2/19/2016 5:05 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
The last time I trusted the federal government with something very important,
they let my blood type, fingerprint, DNA, social security number, names numbers
and addresses of relatives and friends, my wife's SSN, and all three of my
kid's SSNs data get collected by a third party.
Just an example.
On Feb 19, 2016 7:01 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:
If I have a business in Tooele, Utah, I have to have “Knox Box” on the
building with a key in it for the building. The fire department has a key for
all the knox boxes. Is that much more invasive than unlocking your phone?
Nobody is screaming about that. Happens in many cities.
If you have windows in your house, anyone can punch one out and get into
your house. But you all have windows.
Cops can pull you over with probable cause now.
Are you suggesting that if the code gets released in the wild cops are
going to engage in an illegal search using this tool? If they are going to
mess with you they will simply plant something on you.
If this code gets into the wild and is abused in this nature, abut 50
milliseconds later there will be a new version of iOS that will not work with
it.
So, firemen can be trusted, right? More than the NSA? Drunken fireman
buddy with a cop that wants to use the knox box key can be trusted?
The IRS can put all my banking and financial in the cloud now as can my
bank. A disgruntled employee is all it would take. The bank and the IRS are
more trustworthy than the NSA?
I don’t have any family pictures that I would be worried if they got
published. I am just not catching this paranoid cynicism that seems to be
attached to this issue.
From: Travis Johnson
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 5:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple
What if this path continues, and in the future the police officer that just
pulled you over for speeding, suspects you might be up to something else... so
he then takes your phone, unlocks it from his car, downloads everything to his
laptop, and then sends it off to be inspected? Do you want all your private
information (banking, financial, family pictures, etc.) now "in the cloud" for
anyone with access to see?
Travis
On 2/19/2016 5:23 PM, [email protected] wrote:
What is wrong with the FBI having this ability?� How does that have a
negative impact on me?
I could argue that it has a positive benefit to the nation.�
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From: Travis Johnson
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 5:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Apple
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I don't think that's the case.... do you really see the FBI turning the
phone over to Apple? What happens if Apple comes back a week later and says
"oops, sorry... we nuked it". The FBI wants Apple to write a new IOS version
that will not erase the phone after 10 attempts at the login code. Then the FBI
would load that onto the phone, and attempt to brute force the phone combo.
At that point, the FBI could do that to any phone in the future as well.
Apple is doing the right thing here.
Travis
On 2/19/2016 4:05 PM, George Skorup wrote:
As I understand it, that is exactly what the gov is asking them for.
FBI wants Apple to decrypt and send over the data. Nothing more. No "software
on every phone" to do this. Just that ONE phone. Get the data, then incinerate
the device.
On 2/19/2016 4:59 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
But they're not actually asking for a back door, are they?� They're
just saying 'hey, we have this physical device, can we give it to you, and you
get us the data off of it'?� I've got to think that the Engineers at apple
have a way to do this thought up.�
Although at the same time, If they're trying to unlock the phone,
couldn't the Gov't with it's vast resources, just simply make a bit by bit copy
of the flash chip in the phone and just go through and try every unlock code?
On 2/19/2016 4:54 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
Yup. Google agrees as well.
On Feb 19, 2016 4:52 PM, "Sam Lambie" <[email protected]> wrote:
Screw the govt. Apple is doing entirely doing the right thing.
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On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Nate Burke <[email protected]>
wrote:
My Boss and I just had a discussion about this, he think that
Cook should be in Jail for failing to comply with the order.�
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On 2/19/2016 4:46 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
... What?
Seriously?
On Feb 19, 2016 4:44 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
Treason?
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