I do agree about the increased capacity on the newer tech and lower latency but lets keep in mind its still WIFI which has a great place for end user access.

On 04/19/2016 08:07 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
There are advantages to ePMP other than cost. Upgrade path from UBNT or Mikrotik or Ligo. More throughput (though that's diminishing with recent products). Up until the 450d, ability to have decent gain in a single unit.



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*From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
*To: *[email protected]
*Sent: *Tuesday, April 19, 2016 8:04:48 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi capacity doubled at less than half the size

My point is that the technology is one thing, cost is another. We could all do pmp450 with 30* sectors and fulfil a lot of demand, but no one wants to pay for it.

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On Apr 19, 2016 8:59 AM, "Gino Villarini" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    this technology has advataged to hdx as well.  as the radio wont
    be time shifting between tx and rx cycles, i could dedicate it
    time resources 100% to downlink

    On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Josh Luthman
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    wrote:

        So would pmp450 and yet you're buying epmp.

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        On Apr 19, 2016 8:48 AM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            FDX will lower latency, allow for an increase in
            downstream if downstream is no longer being shared with
            upstream and potentially reduce some buffer issues.



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            *From: *"David Milholen" <[email protected]
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            half the size

            I agree with Luthman on this one.. The play on words will
            sell the shiz out of it but what ya got the same ol same
            for the majority.
            Some may take advantage of the up stream but the one thing
            I dont like is the play on word speed. The nutrition label
            sound like it
            could have some tread in the industry if the manufacture
            is honest.



            On 4/18/2016 4:23 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

                Sounds like it just adds FDX which "doubles" your
                speed.  Who cares...


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                On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 5:21 PM, Gino Villarini
                <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                    similar to what Kumu Networks have been working on?

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                    On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 1:53 PM -0700, "Josh
                    Reynolds" <[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                        It's not going to have any effect on your frequency 
re-use, but it
                        should be able to drastically reduce your PTMP latency, 
improving
                        throughput across the board. Also, it could double your 
throughput on
                        your current RF licenses - before you were TXing and 
RXing on two
                        different channels - now you can TX and RX on both 
channels
                        simultaneously.

                        On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Matt  wrote:
                        > This seems great and all but how useful is it if your 
trying to do TDD
                        > for frequency reuse?  Such as ABAB or AAAA?
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
                        
>>http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2016-04/cuso-wcd041316.php



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