Township is more like a small county within a county.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 9:07 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > We have townships and communities too where things are unincorporated. > > *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 26, 2016 6:35 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... > > We have villages in Ohio. Example: http://villageofannaoh.com/ > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 8:31 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > >> In Illinois I know of cities, towns and villages. There may be more that >> I'm forgetting. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Tuesday, July 26, 2016 7:29:57 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... >> >> I had never heard the term "village" used in North America until >> recently. "Towns" and "cities" yes, but I was always under the assumption a >> "village" was a "town" in Europe. >> >> On Jul 26, 2016 6:40 PM, "George Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote: >> >>> Not for small villages with almost no budget. >>> >>> On 7/26/2016 6:29 PM, Daniel White wrote: >>> >>> I’d guess Cambium would say that the 450i platform is a better fit for >>> government projects. >>> >>> >>> >>> Daniel White >>> >>> Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales >>> >>> ConVergence Technologies >>> >>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 <%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590> >>> >>> dwh...@converge-tech.com >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >>> Behalf Of *George Skorup >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 26, 2016 5:21 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... >>> >>> >>> >>> If only Cambium would let us unlock 4.9 on ePMP for the gov't projects >>> we're doing.... hint hint, poke poke. >>> >>> On 7/26/2016 3:12 PM, Daniel White wrote: >>> >>> If it is under a government FRN… then there is no license fees. >>> >>> >>> >>> You can’t have the link licensed under your FRN. >>> >>> >>> >>> Daniel White >>> >>> Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales >>> >>> ConVergence Technologies >>> >>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 <%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590> >>> >>> dwh...@converge-tech.com >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >>> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 26, 2016 8:57 AM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... >>> >>> >>> >>> >public safety agency owns the equipment they can license and only pay >>> coordination costs (no FCC fees) >>> >>> >>> >>> So when you edit/add the site information on the FCC sites you don't >>> have to pay if it's for government use? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Daniel White <afmu...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Adam, >>> >>> >>> >>> To answer your question, you cannot use 4.9GHz to provide internet >>> service, regardless of whom the end user is. Commercial traffic cannot >>> pass over public safety systems (although a 4.9GHz user can distribute the >>> Internet on their internal network using 4.9GHz). >>> >>> >>> >>> I’d guess if the tower site was the Demarc, the safety agency had a >>> contract to lease space on the tower, and you donated the equipment to the >>> safety agency it would all be kosher. >>> >>> >>> >>> I’m not a fan of 4.9GHz for most applications personally – remember >>> safety agencies with higher priority in a disaster can shut down other >>> networks to prevent interference (for instance, if FEMA moves into an area >>> they can tell the city to shut down). >>> >>> >>> >>> Personally I’d use a Part 101 band and be done with it. Once again >>> though, if the public safety agency owns the equipment they can license and >>> only pay coordination costs (no FCC fees). So I would lease the equipment >>> to the customer as part of the broadband services contract. >>> >>> >>> >>> Daniel White >>> >>> Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales >>> >>> ConVergence Technologies >>> >>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 <%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590> >>> >>> dwh...@converge-tech.com >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *SmarterBroadband >>> *Sent:* Monday, July 25, 2016 3:53 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... >>> >>> >>> >>> Good to know, I will take a look. >>> >>> Is a county office OK to use 4.9? >>> >>> Adam >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On >>> Behalf Of *Jaime Fink >>> *Sent:* Monday, July 25, 2016 2:23 PM >>> *To:* Jaime Solorza; af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 4.9 Ghz PTP - Can I... >>> >>> >>> >>> B5c in 4.9 GHz is Part 90 Subpart Y certified, should get you 200 Mbps+ >>> aggregate in it’s max allowable channel configuration in that band. Great >>> distance for it. >>> >>> >>> >>> Jaime Fink • Mimosa <http://www.mimosa.co> • CPO & Co-Founder >>> >>> >>> >>> On July 25, 2016 at 2:18:33 PM, Jaime Solorza (losguyswirel...@gmail.com) >>> wrote: >>> >>> Our county folks have Cisco 4.9Ghz radios but are replacing with 3.65 >>> GHz due to hundreds of Radwins used across border by state and federal >>> agencies. I know Airaya had some 4.9GHz ptp solutions.... I know in 5GHz >>> once they go up they stay up pretty solidly. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 25, 2016 2:57 PM, "SmarterBroadband" <li...@smarterbroadband.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> We currently provide 100 meg to our local county offices on an AF24. >>> >>> >>> >>> They want us to move the link to another location will be a 4.3 mile >>> link, so AF24 is out. >>> >>> >>> >>> I need a link to do 100 meg now and be able to do 200 when requested, I >>> want five nines, so Licensed. >>> >>> >>> >>> Can I use 4.9 Ghz for this? >>> >>> >>> >>> What is available for PTP in 4.9Ghz? >>> >>> >>> >>> If not, I could use a B11, but I hate to waste 11 Ghz spectrum on a >>> short link. >>> >>> >>> >>> Suggestions in Licensed 18Ghz? >>> >>> >>> >>> BTW they are price sensitive. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> >>> >>> Adam >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon> >>> >>> Virus-free. www.avast.com >>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon> >>> >>> Virus-free. www.avast.com >>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon> >>> Virus-free. >>> www.avast.com >>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link> >>> >>> >>> >> > >
